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ShiShi21m

Here's a source bro, enjoy.

Just in case you're brain really is this fiat,

This study can only pull data that was actually reported, I doubt my uncle in Israel was part of the sample size 🤪.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8517946/

Zach⚡️ 2y ago

I appreciate the source, and I can tell this is a sensitive issue.

To repeat, let me spell out where we agree again:

- Vaccines should never be mandatory

- The Covid vaccines were not sufficiently studied

- The Covid vaccines produce adverse side effects which can in some cases be fatal

- The (supposed) benefits of vaccination for Covid are far outweighed by the risks, some of which are unknown

My only criticism, and my main criticism of the original post and the article it linked to, was the propaganda surrounding the scale of the disaster they are. I don’t think propaganda should be used to advance your agenda, especially fear based propaganda, no matter how correct you feel you are. It came off to me like a climate hysteric. They always scream the world is ending based off of dubious evidence, and that equates with screaming everyone who is vaccinated will likely die much earlier due to their effects. It’s simply dishonest, and that’s why I called it fiat. I want to know factual observations and make my own judgements based off of them, as I’m sure you do as well.

We agree on all the core principles - I simply want our opposition to mandates and bad medicine to hold itself to a higher standard of reporting than I saw in that article.

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ShiShi21m 2y ago

My uncle is a vegetable, I'll never have another real conversation with him again.

Chemo for the young lady.

I don't think the scale of negative impact is minimal, I think it's much worse than any of us realize.

How many of these events are unreported?

Zach⚡️ 2y ago

I’m not sure, I have no way to know. Why were yours not reported?

I’m very sorry to hear about those tragedies.

I’m younger, so my social group is also fairly young and healthy, but I don’t have any anecdotes of effects like that occurring. With 70% of the world having taken 1 or more shot (as the OP claimed) even 20% of the vaccinated having adverse reactions would mean 14% of the world. I speculate that’s closer to 1%, at highest. But again, without good studies and data, there is no way to assess this claim.

This situation becomes further complicated by the fact that so many people have horrible diets, health habits, and are exposed to fiat healthcare anyway. With or without COVID and the vaccinations, I would expect the average life expectancy to continue to decline due to those factors.

ShiShi21m 2y ago

Read this one well. Clinical trial analysis.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/