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Just finished cleaning the insides of:

* 2019 MacBook Pro 16”

* Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 5

Winners:

Ease of access: ThinkPad (barely)

Build quality: MacBook (not close. Thinkpad is a piece of shit on inside, tiny speakers just died within 2 weeks, everything plastic)

Cooling solution: MacBook (by a landslide. Thinkpad idles at 80C)

Upgradability: Thinkpad (SSD and Ram x2)

Cost: MacBook (it was half the price of this Thinkpad)

Overall, I’m floored that $4000 into a “workstation class” laptop, it sucks in this many ways compared to a stock MacBook. I’ll never buy Lenovo again.
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CynicalFox 2y ago

I'm surprised Thinkpad = barely the winner for ease of access... it's been a while since I've owned ones but those things used to be really great (well made, upgradable, etc..)

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nobody 2y ago

Thinkpad: 7 screws, six plasic snaps (nubs that tend to break/wear)

MacBook: 5 screws (but minus points for being pentalobe) and 4 snaps which are designed to be reused (finger/gripper style). Minus points for having to slide bottom forward for release.

It was really close in the actual experience tbh, but without an electronics screwdriver kit with a P5 bit, would make things very different.

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CynicalFox 2y ago

Sounds like they've gotten a bit cheaper in the last few years, then :( but yeah, from a consumer-friendliness point of view needing to buy extra kits does bug me. I kinda like being able to macguiver things just with what I have on my keyring knife.

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nobody 2y ago

It’s standard in electronics kits now (I got mine with 80+ bits from Harbor Freight for $37) but yeah. I took points for it. Thinkpad still used a Phillips.