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n0>1 9mo ago

I am working to understand the tradeoffs between #bitcoin and #monero.

I have to be honest. One red flag I see is that many bitcoiners come off as religious about it vs. explaining things in a logical way.

I have been guilty of this In the past when I have immediately written of monero as a shitcoin simply becuase it is not bitcoin. But looking closer, it seems like a solid project with good intentions.

The monero people seem more level headed and often support both chains for the most part.

I will comtinure to ask questions. I am not attached to outcomes. I don't care about current adoption and USD price as much as I care about long term viability. And privacy is very important to me.

We are still so early. And things can change.

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maya 9mo ago

GM 😘

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n0>1 9mo ago

GM ☀️

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R 9mo ago

I notice the monero people are always coming into bitcoin conversations to shill monero. Are Bitcoiners constantly going in to monero conversations? I know I never do. Happy for them to persue whatever they want, but when they pop in to tell me what’s wrong with Bitcoin and promote monero, I just mute them. Seems pathological to me.

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n0>1 9mo ago

I am sure that happens as well.

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ede3d957... 9mo ago

Yes, Bitcoiners *did that all the time back in the good old days. There are even memes about Bitcoiers evangelising Bitcoin to their fellows on parties in 2013. My response: People should have listened to the high alpha signal.

Monero supporters are largely Bitcoin OGs from 2009 to 2012. So no wonder they are still evangelising, now that Bitcoin made it as a digital store of value. What's still unfinished business is digital cash and the best privacy for private offshore wealth.

Again this is high alpha signal. Most people (including Bitcoiners) will ignore it again.

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Saberhagen The Nameless 9mo ago

Well, it's Nostr so there are way more Bitcoin conversations going on with the potential for that to happen VS the other way around. But it does happen the other way too.

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Chuck Langstrumpf 9mo ago

It is Bitcoiners talking to other Bitcoiners about Monero and the flaws of Bitcoin. Every single Monero user has or had Bitcoin.

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Enki 9mo ago

The religious zealotry I see regarding Bitcoin is probably its most off-putting aspect to me. But in all fairness, maxies in every camp do the same thing. There are religious zealots about Monero too and it's equally as off-putting.

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Agnos 9mo ago

I see it as, "Use the right tool for the job". If you can use bitcoin effectively as p2p money, good for you. If you need privacy and don't have the time to setup and learn lightning, maybe use monero.

Its great to have options. We also have things like trocador that will swap other's coins into your coin of choice.

We shouldn't be fighting each other over which coin is "the best", we should focus on fighting against the state, by simply using these coins in p2p fashion.

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n0>1 9mo ago

I agree. There is more than enough fiat to be eaten up and bring more "value" to these tools.

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Expatriotic 9mo ago

https://expatriotic.me/monero

https://stacker.news/~monero

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n0>1 9mo ago

Thanks. I didn't know there was a monero territory on stacker news.