Wow, these tech freaks can't help but censor. I just deleted primal now need to find an alternative to Amethyst

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You should also find new relays, since all your relays are also deleting spam, scams and other things.

On Amethyst, if you don't like the filter, you can just disable it on the Security filters menu on the left. But by default, the app will always try to hide spammers.

Is there a way to know if you have been tagged as a spammer? Do I have a spammer tag on my profile?

Dont cuck to his authority

Norm is that you?

On Amethyst, you have to post the exact same post 5+ times in a short period of time. The filter ignores small things like reactions and GMs. You have not done that, so you are fine on Amethyst.

But every Client and every Relay has their own filters for spammers, scammers and other CSAM content. Virtually all of them are enabled by default either on the server or on the client.

Okay. You can imagine people coming to Nostr are ultra sensitive to centralization so it's not great for the optics to have filters and the dev team directly involved in disputes, yet I appreciate the transparency. If he was spamming I would just unfollow him

Yes, you can also mute and report him. Veritas is already more muted than followed, so most users are reacting to his content in a bad way and he is now disappearing from more and more feeds. Filters exist in some form on every client. The beauty of nostr is that users can use multiple clients at the same time. But each client decides what and how they want to show, with or without options to users. Relays are the same. They are all private property of somebody else. Nostr just allows you to move between clients (or build your own) very easily.

Don't you think that the mass reporting/muting will be used to attack accounts in the future? Just like it is on X

They tried already. It didn't work. But I am sure they will try again. If you are afraid of that, make sure to pay your relay to store your data. The free ones wouldn't even blink before deleting your content. They don't have the money to risk.

What data do the relays hold? Don't the relays simply facilitate the post to Nostr? Do they also collect data like our emails and IP addresses which could be used for doxxing If they leak it?

They can see your IP and everything you are looking at in the app. So, make sure you trust your relays. They know exactly who you are and what you are doing on Nostr.

I understand this is not Amethyst's problem but If there is wide spread adoption of Nostr, this will leave many people vulnerable to doxxing. Especially non-technical people who don't understand the relay/client system. Honestly, all of this makes Nostr feel just like X.

Also, there are a few tor relays available

What are tor relays?

Think of it like a vpn to the dark web, or secret internet that hosts websites or services

Tell your nostr client to use tor and add the tor relay and boom, safe and secure

Good to know 😉

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I host one on there too

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Any app, in any protocol, will need to get posts from some type of server. That server will always know about you. The beauty of nostr is that you can choose a server you trust. On X, you have to trust the company and there is no way around it.

Okay thank you Viktor !

I'll remind you of this reply I made, since you conveniently ignored it the first go-around.

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I disagree with you. It is spam. By these numbers and content (selling shit no one wants over and over again) it is the definition of spam.

Its free shit!

Open source like your dinky app

A free service for nostr

Speak for yourself. This is exactly the sort of reasonable and hands on approach I want in technology that has the ability to spy on users. These guys are building what I'm not exaggerating to call the future of online communications. And they're pragmatic enough and give a shit about it enough to be here making it make sense and educating you about it. Fuck optics. I as a user want practical solutions. This is what I will stay on nostr for.

What if I posted the exact same welcome message to a bunch of newbies in a short period of time? 👀

If it is a reply to different people, it is fine for now on Amethyst. But relays already decrease your score based on those duplications.

Good to know. Thanks.

Are there things that increase my score again among the relays?

Yep, original content that gets zapped, or that gets reacted and replied to by other users with strong score. There are many algos running with different metrics.

I think a good way to welcome newbies would be to zap them a couple sats. You will never get filtered for zapping.