there is a really big problem brewing in #nostr

there is no client to test a relay with

the clients all have logic to try other relays all the time for whatever reasons

the clients don't show clear information about the status of connections with relays

the clients for whatever reason decline to send messages to the relays

i set up three users all connected to one relay and have them all follow each other and nothing comes up on the #coracle feed page, though i can copy the links to the posts each one makes and see them in the others

how can i test that my relay works if the client assumes it can't rely on one relay to see events?

i tried to talk some sense into nostr:nprofile1qy08wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wshsz8mhwden5te0dehhxarj94ex2mrp0yhxummtda6xzun09e3k7mf0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwdaehgu3wvfskuep0qqswuyd9ml6qcxd92h6pleptfrcqucvvjy39vg4wx7mv9wm8kakyujgw3tmmj about this, about how his gossip client refuses to respect any kind of settings for choice of relays and nostr:nprofile1qyfhwumn8ghj7mmxve3ksctfdch8qatz9uqsuamnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dshszxthwden5te0dphkgmrzdajzumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcqyztuwzjyxe4x2dwpgken87tna2rdlhpd02va5cvvgrrywpddnr3jyhdw0my 's client is almost good with NIP-42 but fails because it's running off on its own picking relays to talk to

EVEN WHEN I HAVE SET ONLY ONE AND SET ONLY ONE IN FORCE_RELAYS

there is no way to test a relay standalone in this entire ecosystem right now

you can't be sure your relay is working, it's not possible to be sure it's working, the client doesn't let you be sure, none of them

if anyone knows of a client that does, i'm all ears but at this point it looks to me like i'm going to be building a basic CLI client so i can at least depend on it NOT ASKNIG THE WHOLD YFIVGLU LDKjfa;sidjf;aisdjhf;aiklshdjf;akljhdf;ajkhsdf;jkahsdf

#asknostr

nostrudel works to bootstrap and stay wth one relay in my experience.

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nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku lmk if nostrudel works.

Probably not what you are looking for - Damus has MacOS native app with the relay model. No gossip. You should be able to select your relay only.

In the meanwhile I logged this on nostrability issues list https://github.com/nostrability/nostrability/issues/22

nostrudel is the bomb

i now have a testing client

i only wish it had a setting to automatically decrypt DMs

iris.to is worth trying to, may not have the decrypt issue.. i havent used iris for a long time but i used to have success testing with one relay there too ( might not work any longer )

Auto decrypt a la nip-44?

Nostrudel is very much a Poweruser client. Need it constantly.

also i'm very pleased to hear i can trust damus to use as a client, that means we got iOS users covered and in the near future there will be android too

Yeah. Might have to empty cache, first, but then it works.

yes, true! luckily nostrudel has easy ability to do so in the settings

Thank you nostr:npub1ye5ptcxfyyxl5vjvdjar2ua3f0hynkjzpx552mu5snj3qmx5pzjscpknpr for being gracious to us pleb devs.

Been thinking about adding this as a feature into noStrudel. I've got to figure out how it would cache events but it would be cool to have a "single relay" mode

imagining even having a configurable option for self hosted instances like in say start9 to bootstrap with the start9 relay you are running (or coukd be editable to any relay) and indicate if you want single relay on or off for your service 🤙