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so, your logic is, christianity makes people into satanist idol worshipers. got it.

First of all, frame of reference, I don't believe in Satan. Believing in Satan is a christian thing.

Second of all, I don't believe in worship of anything or anyone.

Who is easier to get to worship the state? A person with a hard and fast no worship of anything rule? Or a person trained to worship then given a short list of acceptable objects of worship?

Simply declare that your government is gods chosen government and a huge number of Christians will follow and support you without questioning.

You may say that you have read the bible and it says something else, but I have 2000 years of historical records repeatedly showing that works. Not just history, simply looking around America today shows it still works. It doesn't even have to be convincing. Trump has no Christian qualities in any of his actions but he declared he believed and the evangelical branches of Christianity fell in line and all voted for him 3 times.

No true Scotsman incoming in 5, 4, 3...

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Kip Ashlynn 6mo ago

I think that's why there's so much emphasis on looking within to find the kingdom of God. We can look into our hearts and discern for ourselves. We can tell them by their fruit.

Bill Cypher 6mo ago

I'm not saying it's what the Bible or Jesus teach either.

I'm saying that it clearly sets a large number of people up with this giant hole of an exploit that governments repeatedly take advantage of.

Jeff Swann 6mo ago

There are a lot of (if not more) self described atheists who worship the State too. It is basically inevitable that we will each have a hierarchy of values. Whatever sits atop said hierarchy will effectively be that person's God whether they realize it or not.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

for me, that is the eternal laws of the universe.

Bill Cypher 6mo ago

Couldn't possibly be more since you outnumber us by such wide margins.

I see a lot of Christians claiming people are atheists based on what they consider to be ungodly actions. That doesn't make them atheists. For example look at the Hispanic drug gangs and Catholicism.

a source familiar with the matter 6mo ago

I think there's also a Plato vs Aristotle issue.

I don't recognize one mind as God, yet I don't believe in the State.

https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/the-duel-between-good-and-evil-aristotle-versus-plato-ayn-rand-versus-kant/