Nostr is slow, buggy, and not ready for prime time. But it’s the most fascinating application of public relays I’ve seen. Reminds me of the late 80s… right before the Internet changed everything.
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One of the fascinating things is that nostr has what very much looks like a client-server architecture, but it’s not, it’s widely different than that due to the signatures at the edges on the data.
Many new implementations possibilities open up because of this and the fact that all data is addressable and composable.
Decoupling the service and data host. The service no longer takes upon the liability of hosting content.
So long as there is a single relay willing to accept your events, you still exist on the network. Those relays can also be listened to by other relays creating redudancy, increasing censorship resistance.
Are you real
Things are bubbling up and a phase transition is over the horizon
Ditto
Slow? What aspect? What are expectations and actual experience? I perceive it as blazing fast but a little bit due to knowing how decentralised it actually is and still feels so fast!
Buggy how? Client issues.. Or actual nostr protocol issues?
Client fragmentation and lack of “killer” UX holds it back. Not to say that makes it a death sentence — it just needs work. I’ve spent years putting customers first, and it’s what I think leads to success in every arena. Just like the cypherpunks during my time, developers now *sometimes* tend to be shortsighted in thinking about the end-user.
That’s exactly why I’m here to soak up eveyrtbung I can
We’re now starting to get help from visionary IC designers like nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac and nostr:npub149p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklq9g722q
We’re about to experience an orders of magnitude improvement in usability and customer-centric experiences
It’s just really early and we’re still exploring the nature of the protocol
That is to say that I fully agree with your statement
Perhaps really ponder what he means by “client fragmentation” being a problem.
Indeed! This lack of “killer” UX is the opportunity now. And it’ll probably just take one app to get it right for the rest to swiftly implement and improve upon it.
"Client fragmentation" is a feature not a bug of Nostr 💪
UX isn't there compared to polished centralised decades old services but I'm excited seeing improvements when more ux people join in. So far it's been a lot of technical people that focused on rich and innovative functionality only. (one click zaps are pure magic).
Shout out to #Amethyst and nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z, the ux is amazing!
I absolutely agree that an improvement in the user experience is the next big step to valorize the great work done till now at the dev/tech level. But I think that client fragmentation is not a problem; actually, it's an opportunity that needs to be exploited by embracing a new UX paradigm; this can flourish the richness of interoperable "micro apps" that are possible with nostr.
Putting customer first depends on who is your customer and what do they want. People don't come here to "Tweet", they come for sovereignty, censorship-resistance, zaps and fun... And to watch this space grow.
We are not building a "Twitter, but...". We're building another way to interact with data, relationships, ... That's the product. Is it for everyone? No, but the few of us who value this are great customers of this service.
It's only Westworld season1 🤦🏻♂️
That's exactly why I keep coming back to Nostr. It feels like the old internet again.
Got a little scared after reading 'prime'
It's sound like Real BigMan on AWS 🫂
Pretty soon we’re going to start tapping into our webs of trust to curate all sorts of information. That’s going to knock your socks off.
We will see how much faster we will be mainstream.
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It's just the beginning!
Jeff what's story with hooking a brother up from Ireland with a few sats Tryna to make a difference was asleep when you were on last night but you're right Nostr is too buggy but the relays are aw some but I disagree with you that it's not ready for primetime in saying that you're saying Bitcoin itself ain't ready for primetime when everyone knows it is and the Nostr client and Bitcoin go together like Hunter Biden smoking crack on his laptop whilst talking to his baby mom who happens to be his sister in law's daughter 🤣🤣 work that out but it's a true story Jeff.
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Have you tried nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg yet? It's slick.
But yes, we're still in the "looks like a toy" phase for sure.
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And Twitch is broken, taking half the money from their creators while having access to the cheapest cloud hosting in the world and Amazon is destroying the planet pitching throw-away products.
What are you building again? Oh right, nothing.
I don't agree. This is Nostr's prime time. When it becomes mainstream and people start to argue and do normie shit, it will become boring again.
And boring is bad.
E-mail's (and internet's), irc's, icq's, ... prime time was not when it had maximum number of users.
Seguramente es una cuenta fake, pero estoy de acuerdo en lo que dice 🐇🐇
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WTF? Nostr is not slow. Some clients are slow. This can’t be Jeff B for real. Or is it?
Very buggy. It deleted everyone I followed. Set me back to zero.
Agree,
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