The mind flaying on Elon is crazy to watch. What he's doing has zero effect on honest people. Only the grifters are impacted.
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This is just a really stupid take, sorry. It assumes he doesn't make any mistakes.
🙄 It doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes. It does mean that very little of what he's doing affects anyone except govt employees.
Not every government employee is a corrupt politician. The government is not a building that walks around doing shit, it's human beings, it's park rangers and sanitation workers, it's police and firefighters, etc etc. I'm all for government efficiency but what's happening right now is the opposite of efficiency, it's the equivalent of detonating every nuclear bomb on the planet as a means of exterminating your bed bugs. It's nothing short of pure absurdity.
What's happening now has to happen now or it won't happen at all and the govt will collapse in a default. That outcome will be far worse for everyone than this. As it is, there isn't a single govt worker or elected official who gives a shit about efficiency. This is textbook end-stage democracy where everyone grabs whatever benies they can until the system breaks. If that happens, we'll get a real tyrant like Stalin. He'll be a Democrat and will make Trump look like Santa Claus.
The government's going to go into default regardless, it doesn't matter who's in charge, and I really don't think there's anything that can be done to stop it at all. That said, as it relates to this conversation, economic default doesn't really have anything to do with efficiency, not directly anyway.
Sure it does. cutting costs and spending (and yes they have to go together) slows the growth of the debt and holds off default. I just want people to have as much time as possible to prepare.
What are you referring to?
anyone who suddenly thinks Elon is the devil.
He's not the devil, he's just a manipulative asshole and apparently all of his past endeavors had nothing but a facade of good intentions. It was all for profit and power, when it comes to actually making society a better place, he doesn't give a shit, so I guess it's no surprise he's now buddy buddy with Trump.
I see what you mean Bill
Yet what he's doing must be done. So many people whining about him don't want to discuss the debt, let alone have a plan to deal with it.
He's not doing much to deal with the debt, what's been eliminated is mostly jobs, which just leads to higher reliance on unemployment benefits, and a continuing drain on the economy; if anything it's counterproductive. Plus many of those have been hired back because it turns out they are actually necessary, and he has yet to really touch the DOD which is nearly half the budget. If the DOGE really wants to do its job well, they should start with auditing DOGE.
I agree the treatment of the DOD is ridiculous. The idea, though, that DOGE should be audited before any existing govt agency is absurd. Yes the whole thing should be as transparent as possible, but this should apply to every govt agency. Pull back the curtains. Show us every penny being spent. Quit protecting govt workers. They aren't a special class, and no we don't need that vast majority of them. Life will go on just fine if most of them were doing something else. It's a grift.