So is Muun wallet dying these days?

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Do you mean with the recent high fees? Or something else? Haven’t been using it much recently

I can’t recieve LN payments anymore with muun

Damn 😯

They posted one single twitter post about it being caused by high fees and they seem to be ghosting everyone since then

Keep trying… I just sent myself 10K sats via Lightning

I have no idea how they manage channels for the user, since your wallet is technically on chain and they just do swaps when you want to use LN. I assume they have plenty of channel capacity but my understanding is pretty limited

You did it today?

Yes just tested it a minute ago after I saw your post

Sent WoS to Muun

I still can’t recieve =/

Give me a little Muun invoice to try paying

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Hmm payment failed 😞

Failed from WoS, spun on Phoenix, and said “already paid” on Muun

Thanks for trying. I also tried from different wallets. Nothing goes through =(

Can you pay from? Or just not receive

No, nothing on LN works

#[2]​ posted quite a lot about it

Thanks 🙏

Just trying to keep people from getting burned.

I think the fact they use submarine-swaps is biting them in the ass. Unfortunate but it is what it is. I think, at the time, submarine swaps made Muun stand apart and solved some interesting limitations while the Lightning network still grew.

But as the timechain fees (and usage) increases, and with lightning much more robust than it was 1-2 years ago, maybe Muun's way of handling things aren't the best way anymore.

I understand the problem, but how they handle it (no communication) is weak

The swap service seems to be dead. Can’t receive a LN transaction larger than 100k sats. So I’m using it as a simple on-chain wallet. Really sad that the submarine feature hit them back. The idea was nice, but it doesn’t scale well apparently 😔 I‘d still monitor what they do next before deleting it forever 🤷🏻‍♂️

Onchain shouldn’t be a problem. It is a non custodial wallet afaik

Is good you speak about it.. look today i send this first transaction from Muun to wos. I was very happy 0sats in fee to send 2100sats but few minute i doing a other one and look the fee is crazy for the same amount…😅🤷‍♂️

Yeah, it’s not real lightning wallet… they depend on on chain fees

wow that's good to know 😅

But it’s non custodial so your funds should be safe (as safe as it can be in a hot wallet)