1) Mr. Neemeyer of killdozer fame moved to a town that then deliberately killed his business by discriminatory regulation where his competitors were in on the graft. They literally surrounded his scrap yard, then penalized him for being unable to conduct business with no access easement.
I never accused any of the people being libertarians/rothbardians. My point is that livertarianism doesn’t solve for this modern leftist “I’m not touching you” “soft force”.
If neemeyer MADE and easement, or refused to pay the fines, or otherwise refused to comply with the discrimination, he would have been subject to force.
But your argument is “nobody caused harm to him”.
They surrounded his business and prevented him from conducting any. Was he supposed to wait until they came to execute him? Until he starved to death?
They were engaging in daily force against them and his attack was justifiable self defense, which is my point.
2) but let’s say he found a way to leave.
He founds something like Ruby ridge. “I just want to be left alone”.
But they wouldn’t let Ruby ridge be left alone.
Again, your implication that it isn’t “libertarianism” because the people conducting the actions weren’t strict ideological libertarians is moot. It’s “no true Scotsman” in its portrayal.
If it was Galt’s gulch itself, or any other libertarian utopia you could imagine, it wouldnt have changed the substance.
They wanted to exercise the freedom of association to NOT be involved in government overreach by “checking out” to “a place of their own”.
That could not be allowed so long as the parasitic government existed. “You may not be interested in politics, but politics is intensely interested in you.”
So long as the government that disrespects those rights continues to exist, it will not respect your desire to be left alone by it.
If you do not DESTROY that government and replace it with one that matches your values, it will come and knock on your door to assert its perceived right to your time and resources. That’s why the founders conducted revolution instead of just disappearing into the woods like many others did.
THAT was the lesson of Ruby Ridge. That there is no safety in hiding from evil and expecting to do that indefinitely while you have anything to lose.
3) Gamer gate was a controversy where young men, made nihilistic by our broken culture and lack of opportunities (keep in mind it was around the time of the 2008 crashes so these kids couldn’t find work) ended up trying to find escape in videogames… and realizing there WAS no escape.
Cultural marxist degenerates leveraging bogus gov/corporate bs money used the approved smear words to force themselves into the gaming community and began to take over the industries that produced the games these men used for escape from the very social psychosis that were now being forcibly injected into them.
These were people that didn’t try to run a business like neemeyer nor to physically walk away from the mainstream like the Ruby ridge community. Their escape was solely SPIRITUAL/PSYCHOLOGICAL… and it STILL couldn’t be permitted.
They had to actively build their own parallel game institutions to reclaim their hobby in order to keep it at all.
The ideological and structural connections between the conquest of the game industry and other institutions (like the colleges and big tech) brought some of the gamer gate activists on the freedom side of the issue into broader politics. This is because some of them realized that gamer gate was a spiritual Ruby ridge with the same implications:
The human parasites that believe they are entitled to control you will not respect your boundaries and rights until they are FORCED to, because they respect nothing else.
They believe they know better than you, they believe that your rights are a threat to them (psycho-espistemologivally, they are right, as your ability to thrive by your own code is a refutation of their worldview, entitlement, and thereby, the source of their perverted self-esteem), and will not stop until forced to do so for those reasons.
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You can’t discount every time atlas tried to shrug the shackles of the cult because they failed some sort of “no true Scotsman” ideological purity test for not having read all the right books.
If libertarians will not justify and empathize with their rightful desire for Justice against those that wronged them, then they will seek someone else that will.
THAT is why they are becoming Nazis.