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I'm starting to think the problem is a lot more fundamental than govt or even #politics in the organised sense.

I'm gradually coming round to the position that our systems don't scale up to 10s of millions of people, let alone hundreds.

If you look at small countries like Iceland and Norway it seems to work better. Maybe because they have cohesion.

#Religiom used to provide that in larger groups, but as #science marches on people stop believing in bible stories just as children stop believing in red riding hood.

Then you're left with hundreds of interest groups who only seem to align in opposition to other groups. They don't really have cohesion.

The solution is to break large countries up.
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Jeff Swann 1y ago

I don't think you can fix societal scaling issues by refusing to scale. That's kinda like trying to fix bitcoin by restricting its use to 10k people & just having them do everything on-chain.

I think issues with govt are only partially a scaling problem anyway. Govt also doesn't work well or produce desirable outcomes on a small scale either. Local politics is often extremely corrupt.

We need to break the "political" world up into billions of soverign individuals who can protect their wealth from forced extracrion with some sort of higher layer bitcoin ownership & then scale society with voluntarily funded organizations that will go out of business or get restructured when they fail to serve people.

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Silner 1y ago

I'd turn that around and ask why we need large #countries? What on #earth is the point of them if they don't work It's not like they're necessary.

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Jeff Swann 1y ago

We don't need countries or govts or politics at all. What we need is people able to trade with each other which requires something to scale human interactions & limit parasitism.