Was a conflicting listen for me.
The approach of bitcoin winning through the "sly roundabout way" of integrating it with every business and organization is quite interesting. Lot of validity in stuff like conservativism towards potentially messing with incentives, knock on effects, not trying to do too much on the base layer, etc.
At the same time, his thoughts on dev funding are very misguided. nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f isnt throwing money around to softfork proposals. Neither is Brink, AFAIK. There's a lot of other work that needs funding and he's not helping in the way he think he might be by discouraging dev funding.