Kagi might be actually good if this is true: nostr:nevent1qqsgffh55j3cu5na06gdydpyfn6njl59jxz6unump32kl7zdty0fmegprfmhxue69uhkymmnw3ezumr9vd682unfveujumn9wshszxthwden5te0vfhhxarj9ehx76m0w3shymewvdhk6tcpzamhxue69uhkxcfwwfjkcctev93xcefwdaexwtcc8p2xg

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I paid for a month of kagi with lightning, I'm extremely impressed so far. I wouldn't buy their Orion browser though, it's a closed source browser.

The different Lenses available with search are cool, especially Small Web.

They pinky promise 'We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We do not log or associate searches with an account.'

How is that much better than trusting a closed source browser?

Its laughable that a search engine requires personal data about you before you can use it. I'm sure it works well, but then again so does gmail.

It's like a VPN, you have to trust someone in the end.

So why don't you trust the Orion browser?

Search is different from software because every search is an API request that leaves your machine.

Whatever happened to 'Don't trust, verify' that used to be the rallying cry of open source/ privacy advocates.

It's a fundamental problem with search, they will always know what you're searching and you can't verify the nonexistence of knowledge. Stop trying to imply that I don't care about privacy you fucking tool

No it isn't. With a private browser you can use duckduckgo and even google without logging in. Kagi is the ONLY search engine I know of where you have to register and log in to use.

Paid search might just be too nasty a combo to justify, I get your point for sure.

What do you use for search? Duck duck go? Lol

I'd rather do a private (tor or vpn) not logged in search on google/duckgo than a non private registered search anywhere else.

Feel free to trust Kagi not to use your data or profile yoy, I see no reason why you would trust that more than duckduckgo.

Duck duck go isn't as private as people think, but it's probably the best in terms of privacy/anonymity.

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They just need a "sign in with your npub" option.

what about stract.com? its free and open source. Found some cool stuff through searching there! havent tried kagi, sounds dope though.

Its laughable that a search engine requires personal data about you before you can use it. And a pinky promise they won't associate the data with your account. I find it odd that decentralised nostr bitcoin types are supportive of these kinds of closed projects with same data gathering capabilities as google et al?

I created a dedicated email for it, who cares?

They don't want you to do that. Or they wouldn't ask for your email.

Maybe 🤷‍♂️achieves the same thing as using Google over VPN not signed in

The payment processo also leaves ID trace and IP leaks, eg alby.

Email is IP aware and hard to secure, even with VPN. Throw away ones are not useful long term.

The biggest security hole is definitely that it's account based so all your queries could theoretically be tied to that single account if they're not being honest.