game theory aligned. we have lightning for decent privacy and instant payments with finality. its tradeoffs all around.
onchain doesn't scale for payments anyway, monero folks aren't seeing the bigger picture.
Discussion
How many people outside of Nostr are able to use LN in a privacy preserving non custodial manner?
not many, which is why we have some work to do to make this easier
monero is probably the easiet if you want privacy and self custody, but I wouldn't hold my money in it.
it seems more likely I would just swap into a custodial cashu node for the amount I wanted to use (if I didn't already have a lightning node). asking everyone to accept monero seems unlikely to ever happen
Its so naive what you are saying
Why do you have a lightning address setup to receive bitcoin on nostr? Could it be that you’re just a LARP?
Do you also run a lightning node?
It's fucking HEAVY. I run bitcoind + lnd + monerod and lnd rapes my cpu harder than bitcoind and monerod combined.
Payments often fail due to liquidity issues. Lightning is extremely centralized.
I'm not against L2, and I'm certainly not against having some private-enough way of spending BTC, but we cannot ignore that there are leaks that propagate up the layers because the base layer is lacking in privacy.
I would argue most Monero folks actually see the bigger picture, in a way that Bitcoin maxis don't, by leveraging all available tools in the quest for more autonomy, freedom and privacy.
And that does include saving in Bitcoin for example, or being pragmatic and using Lightning, which is the better choice in many situations (which ones those are will depend on the user for the most part, I suppose - I speak for myself)
I use core lighting, it’s pretty lean
If your node is offline for a few days, doesn't it take a long time until the lightning daemon is useful?
I had the same issue with lnd back in the day, now I'm on eclair. I haven't tried cln.