Nostr Web Client

This is not a serious proposal, but maybe it is. I would like a way to verify that nostr users are actually humans. What if there was a way for two users that meet irl to both sign a note and post it that says they met and saw that the other person does actually exist. It would be like an additional layer to the WoT model. Then when you look at a person's profile it would say X people you follow have verified this user as human, and additionally X people you have verified as human verified this user.

It would encourage more irl interactions among users and be a way for new users to gain some credibility instantly of they are onboarded by a friend.

I'm sure all the devs that read this will think it's a great idea and can't wait to implement yet another note type into their clients. Again, not serious about this, but maybe serious.

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SatsMan 1y ago

💯

zyrotin 1y ago

Sam Altman has a great solution, you just need to stare into a sphere for a minute. Super easy.

Jim Smij 1y ago

I swear on a stack of satoshis that I'm real. but aren't we all just 6 degrees away from Kevin Bacon? anyone know Kevin?

Phil 1y ago

Nostriches Notarizing #Nostr

_ 1y ago

If you want a dating site that is actually all humans, this is the only way ! #rosecoco trust score increases as ypu meet more in environs . Something to do at those tours all these rockstars keep hosting and i aint seen one guitar 🎸

Chris 1y ago

I don't think there's any way to verify such a note is by a human. I.e. a bot could post a note saying it met a human or even another bot. Some form of PoW is required, e.g. requiring a micropayment to post a note or register for a relay.

Crizzo 1y ago

The idea is to incrementally increase the level of trust that a person is human, not verify with certainty. By having two users sign a note it's a mutual endorsement, and if someone is endorsing bot accounts they will end up destroying their own credibility when their signature shows on the bot's profile. Anyone can create accounts and sign these notes, but in a WoT model it doesn't mean anything if they don't have a following, so someone that has spent a lot of time building a following on nostr is not going to risk their credibility by verifying bots.

Chris 1y ago

But how do you know someone is endorsing bot accounts? Bots can also sign notes mutually and build up large followings.

Chris 1y ago

I like the idea of the orange tick mark. Each user has to deposit some sats to show they're human, which isn't really feasible at scale for bots. Maybe some combination of this with WoT would be ideal.

Crizzo 1y ago

It might be gameable, but I think if there were a web of endorsements and you charted it out you could gather some really interesting information and maybe infer who is trying to cheat it based on the groups that form around it.

I don't think there are any bots pretending to be human that have large followings that aren't composed mostly of bots too. Bots would endorse each other and create their own circles on the chart because they wouldn't be able to get legitimate endorsements from real honest people who are endorsing each other. Any crossover from the two groups would reveal who is a bad actor making erroneous endorsements.

That's also why clients would only show you endorsements from people you follow or have endorsed yourself. It wouldn't just be about collecting as many as you can, there has to be a real connection to be meaningful.

StackSats.IO 1y ago

There was a verified human project on nostr 18 months ago, it had some early traction but I’ve not seen anything on it in ages

Laeserin 1y ago

We at Purple Konnektiv would probably be down for doing a round of this at meetups.

It's been nicer on Nostr, now that nobody claims I'm AI.

Laeserin 1y ago

nostr:npub1w4jkwspqn9svwnlrw0nfg0u2yx4cj6yfmp53ya4xp7r24k7gly4qaq30zp weren't you talking about something like this?

Daniel Wigton 1y ago

Yes, I think it needs to underlie the data channels we make. If data can only flow between people who know each other then it is very hard for bad data to get in. The cost of rebuilding trust is too high.

Crizzo 1y ago

I would like to build it, but I have no coding skills. I will try to work on a more detailed proposal though and flesh the idea out more. Having a note type that can be signed by two or more users could have other applications as well. I need to think about it more.