I wish I could do a poll. #asknostr do you think you can truly have a partnership in marriage? Or are we consigned to either a patriarchal or matriarchal structure in the relationship?
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ELI5 what partnership, patriarchal and matriarchal mean 💜🤗
Patriarchal= the man leads Matriarchal= the woman leads
Partnership= decisions are shared
Partnership for me
I think the way the relationships around me have always been, had the man lead some section of their lives, the woman lead other section of their lives, so it ends up around even.
I don’t think a marriage is consigned to be either patriarchal or matriarchal by default but can be a true partnership.
I guess a partnership is possible, but it might involve both patriarchal and matriarchal aspects just in different areas of life. To give away responsibilities is also to give away « power », sharing responsibilities is an exchange of power. If the balance is right you have a strong foundation on which everything else can flourish and last.
It will give some sort of stability, but marriage is instituted by religion. #asknostr
I don’t see the two as mutually exclusive. Marriage is a becoming “one flesh.” I only wish for my wife’s wellbeing and happiness, because her quality of life is mine.
Tbh I think partnership is a huge step down from marriage. Sort of like “life partner.” Implies two separate people just happening to cooperate while it’s in their interests. That’s not what happened in my wedding day.
marriage = union = partnership. These words have the same meaning for me.
I respect our difference here wolf friend. ❤️
I think it's probably a semantics thing. If we were sitting down, across from one another, I feel as though we would agree on the meaning of the word "marriage".
Possibly. Nah, probably. But your friendship is more important than your agreement on everything anyways.
Do you really need to agree on the semantics of marriage if you’re not marrying each other?
If we intend to have meaningful conversations, shared definitions help… but in this case, no, it’s not critical, thus the hugs and dropping it.
It’s interesting to know how one defines marriage. Maybe, by exposing myself to his views I will gain a better understanding of my own relationship.
I agree it is interesting. Hence why I asked the question in the first place. I just know people who seem completely happy in a marriage that I think would make me personally miserable. It doesn’t preclude us being friends. Now if I didn’t respect their marriage or life choices and vice versa, that would be a different matter.
'...50/50 in relationships'
- Beyoncé 🥹💯💜
depends. If by partnership you mean husband and wife devoted to form the strongest union they can together with complimentary strengths and having each others back to get through weaknesses or other challenges, yes.
That said, I do believe that there needs to be an ultimate deciderer when options arise and no immediate consensus or persuasion can set forth a plan of action. That role, while traditionally always patriarchical or matriarchical, doesnt need to be, but those getting married should discuss this beforehand.
There is the trust which is given to each other by both parts so that different aspects of the whole composing the wedding can be dealt with.
In some aspects, the man would be better at planning and executing; on others, the woman would know better how to deal with provided the man has give. The the necessary support.
Trust, as a leader, the head for the body, means the values under which they stand will never fail their partnership.
That is commitment.
It can only be attained when the couple does not think too high of themselves. Because there is someone higher than any of them and both of them.
100% partnership.
A genuine partnership of adult equals is absolutely possible. And I say that after enjoying one for fifteen years, that is only strengthening. And having lived many other types...
What kinda question is this? 😆
It’s a question brought up by nostr:npub1qfkcklnmes45z75y7y8dkud5yll8vp5eq5ysk9rmgqdxeasv8unsrfj6kq discussion. Like I said I wish I could do a poll. I’m curious about other peoples stances.
Mommy and daddy kink, but we take turns
What an odd question. I reject the dialectic.
Let’s look at marriage as a dynamic relationship. First love changes over time. Mutual growth is possible. Could develop into hell as well. In life very few things are fixed.
There is hierarchy in any partnership, the question is whether participation is voluntary or coercive. Flat out 50/50 responsibility creates no ownership over projects or leadership.
Though in Christianity, the partners become one through a mutual love for God. So yes, partnership is achievable under Christian Praxis.
Many social, and inherently moral, questions are dependent upon metaphysical worldviews. Secular philosophies tend to be morally relativistic, so there is no "right or wrong". At best they can be Absurdist with a preference to a particular Theological Tradition.
Be wary of philosophical foundations that revolve around power dynamics. Destruction is the net outcome, in the long run, when motivated by Power.
There's enough variation in humans to allow for all three.