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Knowing that a post reached 121 individuals is more valuable than <$0.01 with confirmed reach of only 1.

Not all value is monetary in a social setting. Both small zaps and likes are barely engagement, but they are engagement. I don't intend to ever deprive my people from having a way to interact with my content without a financial or time cost. If they aren't stopping to comment, my words weren't valuable enough to warrant it, and I don't expect payment in lieu of what equates to an upvote or mark of approval. Zaps are amazing, and a huge part of why I love Nostr, but they are not the same as a like, and there will be many who will not use them.

MainStreetChungus 2y ago

Let’s pull on this idea of the reach of 121 people vs a 21 sat zap…

The only reason that your “reach” is valuable is because it is a way for advertisers to monetize you. They have everyone conditioned to want to get the biggest audience they can so that advertisers can put their ads in front your huge audience.

This model incentivizes gaining the biggest audience, which is not the same as providing actual value to people. It appeals to people’s most base desires for attention and it is very easy to spin up bots to dole out likes to fake an audience to capture the ad revenue.

The 21 Sats, while tiny in terms of USD value today, represents a portion of the entire global #Bitcoin network that is protected by POW miners. Actual energy went into mining that 21 sats, and that is now being exchanged for value. There are only 21 million Bitcoin, so it is much harder to fake the exchange of a sat than a like.

This is V4V 💜🤙

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Aurelius 2y ago

I’m thankful just to have someone read one of my posts. Keep your sats. If you take away something that challenges your world view, that’s enough.

₿TC Fiend 2y ago

Your reach can be valuable to you as well though. Likes are kind of like a read receipt that you were able to connect your message to another user. If you're goal is ultimately to utilize social media to share a message, it's not a terrible thing to get some kind of validation that your message was able to hit in the way you'd hoped it to and that you were able to engage with an audience.

This is just my own personal experience so you can take it for what it's worth, but ever since this concept of 'Only Zaps' came into existence, I feel like my day to day engagement has fallen off a cliff & personally I feel less inspired than I was just a few months ago, to stay as engaged & provide content on #Nostr at the amount that I was engaging early on.

nobody 2y ago

There seems to be a real disconnect between people who read “value” and think money, and those who think “connection” or whatever other metric adds joy and quality to one’s life.

Money is not the only thing people value. Being heard can be valuable. Not feeling alone can be critically valuable. Intellectual debate can be valuable both for individuals and the society at large.

My entire premise is that likes express a different kind of value, which money *cannot* substitute for.

I enjoy having the option to do both. Sometimes I like, sometimes I zap, often I send both. And each variation expresses something different. I see having both as one of the killer features of Nostr - it’s a more granular and expressive way of showing appreciation.

₿TC Fiend 2y ago

Yeah I agree 💯 so I'll really never care for the 'all of nothing' approach of Only Zaps. Fortunately I'm an Amethyst user so we've still got the option for both.

nobody 2y ago

It’s opt in on Damus as well. I’m liking you from there right now ❤️

unclebobmartin 2y ago

I consider zaps to be private-ish, while likes are very public.

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>There seems to be a real disconnect between people who read “value” and think money, and those who think “connection” or whatever other metric adds joy and quality to one’s life.

>Money is not the only thing people value. Being heard can be valuable. Not feeling alone can be critically valuable. Intellectual debate can be valuable both for individuals and the society at large.

>My entire premise is that likes express a different kind of value, which money *cannot* substitute for.

>I enjoy having the option to do both. Sometimes I like, sometimes I zap, often I send both. And each variation expresses something different. I see having both as one of the killer features of Nostr - it’s a more granular and expressive way of showing appreciation.

🥩ℝ𝕖𝕟𝕖𝕘𝕒𝕕𝕖 ₿𝕦𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕖𝕣⚡ 2y ago

This is very well stated

🥩ℝ𝕖𝕟𝕖𝕘𝕒𝕕𝕖 ₿𝕦𝕥𝕔𝕙𝕖𝕣⚡ 2y ago

The reason my reach is valuable isn't because of someone else's ad revenue. It's because as a content creator, an educator and someone focused on community, reaching as many individuals who connect with me and what I share as possible. I network for me and my community, not because of ads.