Mass legal immigration is as erosive to a nation as illegal immigration because both thoroughly neglect cultural assimilation and therefore dispense with any concept of a shared tribe.

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The nation state has already achieved this. Tribes no longer exist. At least not in the western world. Mass migration is only the symptom, not the cause. Too late to go back. The only way is the way forward. We must find new structures of meaning that are in harmony with creation.

No the nation state was always the genesis of ethnic tribes. It was subverted to create economic pyramid schemes in the west.

Tribes predate nation states by several hundred thousand years.

The modern nation state is a fairly recent invention. But to the point, yes, seems to me it only ever worked because people felt as a tribe under its banner, along with shared values, ways of seeing the world, common goals, etc.

Most of that seems to go away when multiple tribes from incompatible places each with competing values are artificially put together under that same single banner.

If at least it's organic and the rate is throttled and the newcomers are vetoed (coming to add value and not to leech, compatible cultural values etc) then it's probably find. But gazillions unvettoed coming to overload an already fragile system, from cultures with incompatible values, who largely have no wish to integrate with the broader culture, then yeah.. different story.

The nation state only functions as a fiction. Fiction only works by controlling information and communication. What we describe as Western culture is the melange of all these things.

Too many immigrants with a different culture break the fiction of the state. People stop believing in it and at the rate at which their belief ends, the nation state ends.

A unified nation state with one language, one culture, one religion and a self-image as one people is a very recent historical development.

The normal state was plurality in all these aspects, because nation states were usually forced combinations of different peoples and tribes.

So it is the other way around. It is not peoples and tribes that infiltrate the state, the state infiltrated, mixed and ultimately destroyed peoples and tribes.

I always liked hoppes stance on immigration

Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

You sound like a faggot Communist. Happy to destroy society in the name of achieving a multicultural hell.

I think he was saying that it's working as intended (the goal being creating chaos, divide and conquer).

Well if that is the correct interpretation my apologies

I don't know much about communism but I'm pretty sure my rejection of a cry for statist ideas is kinda the opposite.

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Classical liberal values must be exuded by the people.