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This is a popular misconception in the West and in Russia itself. First, Mongolia is extremely independent. Second, modern China is far from a policy of colonialism. They don't need land either. They need political partners to have leverage over US satellites (Japan, South Korea, etc).

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Don't listen it's only stupid propaganda. He's never been in the far east of Russia even though he is russian. There are chinese business everywhere. I was at Blagoveshchensk in 2017, there was around 25 percent chinese citizens, just living there. And the chinese do not do any business with the Russian grandfather for free. All the international support comes with a price. Chinese don't want direct war, they prefer profit if they are allowed. They take over territories slowly and only if they need this territory.

I was in Mongolia recently. They are very concerned about the policy of China, and even more so Russia. That's why they establish ties with democratic countries and arrange a visit from the Pope. They are unlucky to find themselves between two warlike powers and have to maneuver.

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Иван 2y ago

I was born in the far east and lived there all my life 😂

There is very little Chinese business there. It's mostly small businesses and private buy and sell. Literally Aliexpress is only made up of living people.

But in general, it would be strange to be surprised by the presence of Chinese business in Russia. It is a major trading partner. Of course it is present in Russia.

Who else should trade in Blagoveshchensk? Germans? 🤣

Иван 2y ago

This Ukrainian Apple 🤔 only proves the independence of Mongolia. With strong Chinese or Russian influence, such an apple would be out of the question.

We should not forget that there are a lot of Ukrainians themselves in the Far East. Perhaps they just bought this apple.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

The Ukrainian symbolism on at a memorial dedicated to the Beatles confirms that Russia is not supported by its neighbor, although Mongolia depends on it.

Иван 2y ago

Or they do not want to repeat the fate of Belarus. There are no countries in the modern world who, after declaring support for Russia, would not face the consequences. Only DPRK and Nicaragua can do it, but because it is impossible to scare them with sanctions.

That's why you can find Ukrainian pineapple, apple or banana in any city in the world. The authorities are simply frightened. In most cases, they don't care about both Ukraine and Russia.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

You yourself say that Mongolia is quite independent. Why should them declare support for Ukraine if they wants to declare support for Russia? Only because of fear of sharing the fate of Belarus? Nonsense.

Иван 2y ago

They are also on the dollar like everyone else. Why would they risk declaring support for Russia? How will it turn out for them financially? Losses. They may be independent, but they are not idiots.

No one who has trade relations with the U.S. and satellites, paying with dollars, will declare support for Russia.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Mongolia is located between China and Russia. There are about 3,3 million people. The capital of the country - Ulaanbaatar - is the most cold capital in entire world. There are less then 2 people on the square kilometer of country area. They doesn't have own oil, gas, almost no wood, coal, they're buying resources and even electricity from neighbors. The older generation is grateful to the Soviet Union for its help in the last century. The current generation is more interested in Korean and Chinese culture. With that said, the dollar is definitely not the main thing.

Иван 2y ago

Mongolia doesn't use rubles or yuan for external transactions, instead opting for dollars.

This year the situation may have changed of course.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

The dollar is reserve world currency. And both China and Russia uses it for external transactions no matter what. So fucking what.

Иван 2y ago

Russia is very limited in its ability to use the dollar. You know, one thing happened... If you think anyone wants to be in Russia's shoes, think again.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

I didn't say anyone wants to be in Russia's shoes.

Иван 2y ago

But you show a wooden apple in Ulanbator as a symbol of Mongolia's support for Ukraine, apparently claiming that they had the choice to place a Russian apple.

They didn't have that option. Even Russia's partners don't do that in Russia's own interest. Except Nicaragua, but even Nicaragua doesn't give a damn about Russia and Ukraine. They're just a special case.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

So stupid conversation. I can’t know how the Mongols feel about Russia, much less you. They express support for Ukraine without fear of the wrath of Russia, which neighbors them, unlike the United States. Many countries have already opposed the dominance of dollars, and nothing happened to them. So I don't understand why a country that shares borders with China and Russia would pretend that they don't support China and Russia. So stupid.

Иван 2y ago

Any country. Not just the one between "China and Russia". Any country is and has been declaring support for Ukraine. There are no other countries. Even Iran and China. You can find their official statements. Even Belarus, which it didn't help anyway.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

That is so fucking stupid. You really believe that every state in the world for real support Russia during war in Ukraine and pretend support to Ukraine because of dependence on the USA? You're the real fan of US.

Иван 2y ago

You'll never know. That's how politics works. They may tell you one thing and do another or do nothing. Hungary looks like a partner of Russia, but it is not. Austria acts like an enemy of Russia, but it's not. Their companies are still operating in Russia.

I'm not a fan of the US, but you can't underestimate its influence on literally everything. That's why even after the statement of support for Ukraine by everyone, Russia still has no problem getting foreign components for its weapons.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Policy may correspond to official position. Especially if no one expects any action from outside observers.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Акции за мир проходят регулярно.

Иван 2y ago

Specifically, these actions are organized by American and European NGOs associated with Ukraine.

Russia is also engaged in such nonsense, but, of course, on a smaller scale due to a lack of funds and difficulties in financing such actions.

In both cases, it's just circus acts.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

You're still blaming US just like the local propaganda do. They are to blame for everything that happens around and inside Russia. How can Russia end the war? What should have happened if not for NATO's participation?

Иван 2y ago

Ukraine is now a state completely dependent on the USA. External control is absolute. Economy, judiciary, army, politics. In case of US withdrawal, the Afghan scenario will be repeated. Nothing new.

Russia's own goals are known. Demilitarization and denazification. What will happen with Ukraine itself is not very clear, but most likely nothing. Knowing Russian politicians, they will always blow up everything they get their hands on.

Иван 2y ago

"blow up"... lol. Lose

Alex Budaev 2y ago

They have long stopped calling demilitarization and denazification goals of war. What crazy nonsense. I can't believe that you are serious. You are the russian propaganda itself, but two years earlier.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

You either don't understand the extent of the invasion, or you're faking it. I live in Ulan-Ude, where almost a third of all construction projects are carried out by Chinese firms under the guise of Russian LLCs. I think Blagoveshchensk is much more invaded. They also seized part of the shore of Lake Baikal through russian entities and front men. I'm not even talking about mining, gold, jade, Bitcoin mining, and so on. Their interests are everywhere. It's not a particularly covert invasion.

Иван 2y ago

It's called investment. We live under capitalism. India has serious interests in our region too. I think in ten years you can talk about the Indian "invasion" of Sakhalin.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Never saw a one Indian here. At first you say that there are no significant amount of chinese business (and chinese people) at far east of Russia, only small businesses, and now you are talking about ordinary investments. Okay.

Иван 2y ago

Yes, investments can and should be higher. Trade turnover between Russia and China is extremely small, if we exclude oil/gas

Alex Budaev 2y ago

Very little chinese business here, you said. You are no better than poor propagandists.

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Иван 2y ago

China is capable of investing more, but for a number of reasons it does not do so. What you have seen in the Russian Far East is only a small part of Chinese capabilities. Go to China itself and compare.

So of course what is now "little Chinese business" and certainly no "invasion". The usual cross-border partnership.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

This in no way contradicts my words that they take only what is needed. And they take it peacefully. Far East, Siberia, whatever. Very unlikely for them it is small investments, but for Russia it's not small at all. I don’t understand what their entire capabilities have to do with it. I think they also buy everything they are given in the America/Europe/Asia/Africa/Australia/etc despite the opposition.

Иван 2y ago

Business. Where and who does otherwise? Russia? Well, we see what Russia's work on the territory of neighboring states leads to.

Alex Budaev 2y ago

When it comes to business and economic invasions, China clearly does things differently.