It's a fact that black males of any age are much more violent than white males. You're not denying that fact.
The policy suggestion is very simple: life sentences or execution for violent criminals. The black male who murdered Iryna had numerous prior violent convictions, including armed robbery. Had we executed him for that she would still be alive; his entire life was a negative value to society.
Of course, with about 10% of the black population having felony convictions for violent crime, that's a hell of a lot of people in jail for life or executed. But that's fine. They're are serious criminals and we damn well should remove them from society.
Stop coddling people who clearly are too stupid and violent to be a part of civilized society. There is zero reason to accept innocent woman getting murdered by worthless psychopaths who have been in and out of the prison system their entire life.
Now, concretely, a three strikes law is one way to implement this. A more clever way would be to make it probabilistic, so criminals have an incentive to cooperate with police. For example, a round of Russian roulette (1/6th chance of dying) per serious violent criminal conviction would be a good start.
We also should try to intercept these worthless, violent, individuals early in life. The young teen who repeatedly attacks his classmates in school for no reason should be institutionalized for life. Right now we give the benefit of the doubt to young offenders. The reality is we should be doing the opposite: the younger violence starts, the more likely it will be a lifelong unfixable problem. Again, this will disproportionately remove young black males from society. But that reflects their inherently high rates of violence.
We spent hundreds of years executing thieves and murderers to get a civilized society. Removing those impulses from the gene pool is what it takes.
I find your racism pretty sick and quite frankly unnecessary in this case. I agree that violent criminals should not be knowingly part of our society but your Russian roulette proposal ... should we make a game show out of this?
Re "It's a fact that black males of any age are much more violent than white males. You're not denying that fact.": No, I don't deny that but that says absolutely nothing about the individual black male. You making it about race is part of the problem as you push for segregation and a two-class punishment.
Should a violent criminal be punished? Yes! Should his skin color be taken into consideration? No!
Should we be tough on violent crime even though it hurts people of color disproportionally? Yeah! It will disproportionally hurt violent criminals and that's the point!
Find me a single thing I've actually said that is _discriminatory_.
The facts are that blacks are significantly more violent than other races in the US. I'm not suggesting to treat them any differently. Rather the opposite: I'm suggesting that we enforce laws equally, and accept the inevitable consequences that a lot of black males (and some females) will be removed from society.
A huge stumbling block to enforcing laws in Western countries is that people cry racism when you do it.
High crime rates in black population has nothing to do with the skin color but everything with absolute lack of upward mobility for certain layers of society. It's a social failure that spills out as crime. What you're suggesting is sweeping it under the rug when in a civilized society you try to create a growth environment.
Nonsense. Anyone with intelligence and work ethic can easily move upward in American society. I personally know so many people who have brought themselves out of poverty using the ample resources available.
Stop making excuses for evil.
> I personally know
Why not show statistics instead of anecdotal evidence.
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I didn't do deep research into the topic but numbers that GPT5 gave me look like there is no systemic preferential treatment of blacks. You suggested more and stronger punishment. More death penalty, more life sentences. The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the world, so I'm not sure if that's what's missing. Also did you not mention preferential treatment of blacks in your prior notes - you simply stated that black males are the problem.
The US does not have the highest incarceration rate in the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
It's 4th, and the difference between the US and the next few dozen isn't that significant.
Also, you are assuming cause and effect. The US is a rich, well developed country with an unusually high black population due to slavery. The much simpler explanation is that the black population are much more criminally inclined. The fact that their average IQ is significantly less is explanation enough: criminality is closely tied to IQ.
https://www.thecgo.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/The-Impact-of-Economic-Opportunity-on-Criminal-Behavior.pdf
There is certainly a lack of peer reviewed papers to proof your point. I hope you know that IQ is also a defined test one can improve results by training for it. It is nothing genetically fixed in the IQ-test.
When I did ask Claude for high correlations of crime and murders, then claude lists the following:
Sorry I always have a problem uploading fotos.
Claude answered:
Key socionomic factors correlated with lower murder rates:
Economic opportunity -> high correlation
Education access -> Strong correlation
Income inequality -> Direct negative correlation
Community investment -> Substantial preventive impact
Mental health support -> Significant preventife effect
😂
That's one paper analyzing extremely unusual conditions. And it's not even about IQ, which was my claim.
It is your claim. Its on you, to show your claim is credible.
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Additionally does the map you shared showcase very clearly, that it is among the top incarceration rates worldwide. It is a well known thing in social science, that most prisons within the US lack models to focus on reintegration of prisoners. Prisons are rather criminal highschools, than helping those who need it the most to find a way to live a successful life, with a legal job and a house over the head.
I mean to most people it should be clear, that prisoners are some of the weakest link within society. They are not there for being very social, skilled and useful. So it is kind of obvious they need a lot of training in getting there in order to become a good neighbour after prison.
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So it's the low IQ not the black skin? Why don't you propose to incarcerate the whole low IQ population instead of just the black portion?
Your post at the top of the thread says "black".
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It’s time for Resegregation
#ResegregationNow
Nah. It’s time to just bring back the death penalty. The blacks that don’t belong can weed themselves out and those that do can stick around. That simple. Resegregation isn’t fair to blacks who do the right thing and is just an indefinite expense they shouldn’t have to pay for whites.
“Get right or go back to Africa. Keep acting like animals here and we’ll treat you like one.”
We don’t need to 80% of the their population in jail. Keep them separate and the good ones can take care of the bad ones, or move to Liberia.
I said death penalty. Not jail. Segregation would be like an open air jail where we have to maintain all the separate infrastructure which would be an unfair tax burden on EVERYONE and an extra undeserved punishment for good blacks.
Just bring back the death penalty or forced expulsion to Liberia for violent offenders and traitors. Everyone else can work it out from there together.
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Dummy me. You’re agreeing with me about death penalty. Duh. I still don’t think good blacks should have to babysit their idiots just because they share skin color, any more than a white should be responsible for his IQ80 methhead cousin. That just breeds resentment from demonstrably good people. Just execute or exile the bad apples and let the good ones be happy and at peace without their nutjob uncles/cousins/whatever ruining their lives and communities.
Death penalty, yes.
Race mixing, no.
We have a responsibility to the 80iq white methhead. That responsibility may be keeping them in jail, but it’s still our responsibility.
Whites have no responsibility for blacks, we’ve taken care of them long enough. It’s time to separate and their good ones can live in some sort of middle ground.
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Haha you defnitly watch too much Batman or something. I have a really hard time to take your note serious.
I hope you know, that a constitutional state should follow equality and proportionality when sentencing someone.
In addition, there are very good reasons why death penalty is not conform with human rights.
But probably you like a state which does ristrict your rights below the well consesed bare minimum of the human rights. Human rights are no high standard. Also is it very a realistic model, all reason based countries follow.
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Read some Sowell, should help you figure out why this won't work (as it never has in the past)
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