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Mars without a strategy to restart the magnetic core is not a plan at all. Better off building beneath the surface of the moon.

Low Information Voter 1y ago

Restarting the core not going to happen. But there's a "cheat code" - L1.

Put any human activity there, and you disrupt the solar protons eroding the Martian atmosphere and irradiating the surface.

Even the tiniest deflection is enough to make those protons miss Mars. NASA has talked about parking superconducting magnets there, but actually any human activity will do.

Using electricity? You're inducing magnetic fields. Industrial processes? You're leaking pollution. Transport activities? You're spraying propellant around.

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SLCW 1y ago

The idea of colonizing Mars is an absurd boondoggle that fails to grasp just how incompatible with human life the red planet it, and the expense of keeping humans alive on an ongoing basis. Maybe at some point in the future we'll have developed the technology that could cheaply and feasibly support a long-term human colony, but that point isn't on our visible horizon. It's a ludicrous plan once you really consider the necessary logistics and expense.

Low Information Voter 1y ago

You're not wrong, but humans being how we are, "develop the technology" requires we go there.

The engineering we can use simulations for some, and cheaper testbeds like Luna for some more, but the politics and funding can only be sustainable with a human presence on the Red Planet.

Multiple, rival presences, if the European colonisation of the Americas is any guide.

SLCW 1y ago

This article very accurately breaks down why we're not colonizing Mars.

https://defector.com/neither-elon-musk-nor-anybody-else-will-ever-colonize-mars

Low Information Voter 1y ago

Its witty, but it didn't tell me anything I didn't know when I was 12.

Mars has challenges. Outback Australia has challenges.

Mars' are less challenging to us in 2024 than Australia's were to the British in 1788.

SLCW 1y ago

I'm not sure you're actually hearing what the author is saying. Colonizing the Outback is not even remotely close to colonizing Mars in its inhospitability, and expense. There is literally no analog you can compare with on Earth. The cost alone would drain the resources we would need to continue maintaining the level of life we all have on Earth to a shocking degree. It's simply not a plausible scenario given our current technology and civilization, nor our conceivable technology in the foreseeable future. It is the very definition of boondoggle.

Low Information Voter 1y ago

We are currently draining Earth's resources into a confrontation between nuclear powers.

The Martian landscape is far less inhospitable to human life than a politician's soul.

I'm well aware of the challenges, but the author of that essay seems to be unaware of most of the last sixty years worth of developments.

SLCW 1y ago

Specifically, what technology do you believe we've developed in the past 60 years that would negate the reality of the challenges to sustaining human life on Mars on permanent basis? Remember, we're not talking about sending one or two people for an exploratory, 2-day mission. We're talking about a group of humans are expected survive and thrive on Mars permanently.

H 1y ago

"In a saner society, a rich guy with Musk's well-known and unapologetically expounded views would sooner find himself under a guillotine"

Thanks for the completely unbiased article from this spiritual redditor.

brian 1y ago

I think in the future we will be able to restart the core with an equatorial band of satellites displaced by 180° with quantum tweezers tuned to the anti-metastate form of crystalline iron.

Sadly no one in the Dirac(i) split of realities ever developed the quantum metastate theory. However, all those branches had long fascist eras, so perhaps we got the better branch for personal sovereignty.

Low Information Voter 1y ago

I laughed, but this is Nostr, so I'd better underline - that was a joke, don't ask him for his paper.

MichaelJ 1y ago

I've heard of that idea before. Put a big electromagnetic at Mars' L1 powered by solar panels or something, that might do the trick.