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Note is just for information. I don't care if monero is delisted on every cex.

But if I would use haveno, is there a installation guide? Last time I checked, it was more than just one package/app to install.

Shida_Kayn 1y ago

I got no idea about Haveno. But I can highly recommend you to use Bisq instead.

Bisq is 100% on Tor, you only trade P2P, but you need at least some bitcoin to start trading, even monero, like 0.02 btc. Because the security fund can only be through BTC.

If you try to scam someone and you failed the dispute, you lose your security fund, it is something like 20% transaction fund. So there aren't any scammer there, at least I never meet one and I already made more than 20 transactions there.

Starting the application may sometimes be problematic (many bugs or tor attack which prevent the app to launch properly), but if you run a full bitcoin node on your computer, there won't be any more problems at startup.

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Schroedinger 1y ago

Haveno is basically a fork of bisq for monero. Tor only, P2P, Arbitrators all is similar. Even the UI looks like bisq

Shida_Kayn 1y ago

Wow, I didn't know about it. Thanks

Saberhagen The Nameless 1y ago

https://haveno-reto.com/

Shida_Kayn 1y ago

Bro, I just spend something like 2 hours to learn about gpg/sign/encrypt stuff and tried it on Haveno. But even after all this time, I don't know if the files I download is original or not.

1st, from your link, I get the public keys "reto_public.asc" which I don't find in the original github webpage https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto

2nd, from their github, I found instead the public key "woodser.asc" https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/blob/master/gpg_keys/woodser.asc

And last, After I download "HavenoInstaller-windows-latest.zip.sig" & "HavenoInstaller-windows-latest.zip" and try to verify the signature, Only your public key ""reto_public.asc" works, the github public key "woodser.asc" doesn't.

Saberhagen The Nameless 1y ago

So, it looks like you already did it correctly. The "reto_public.asc" is what you should be verifying because the "Reto network" is that teams unique instance of Haveno. Woodser helps them out sometimes but isn't directly involved afaik. I think his keys were just carried over from Haveno when Reto forked it.

You can double check with Reto on their SimpleX group chat (link is on the reto website in downloads section), or ask Woodser/Haveno peeps on Matrix:

https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno?tab=readme-ov-file#keep-in-touch-and-help-out