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Shida_Kayn
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Monero (XMR): 87totSvhKggX9E14sC5dAu2Rb9X5nEEiZPCJHGUsPgLU65RjixyB7uMcxpq4ATNcM77qQa3s8QimNYHvd6uAgScwNmZG3Fo

Hmm I prefer using Monero instead though.

Far less transaction fee.

Private by default.

Fast transaction.

??? Why are you tagging me?

I am Faramir from Berwick Saga in PS2.

You should play it too. It is the best game ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPUN2LeaYY&t=1042s

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Which services is he talking about ?

What does GM mean?

I literally stopped talking to my parents, no, my WHOLE FAMILLY at all the moment I discovered they did this to me. I even seriously want to kill them at this point because they are saying shit to me like : " Everyone is doing it - It is good these are the proofs - We got societal pressure to do it - No one complain about it ..."

And the funny part is my mother told me when I was still young, that civilization who did that to female infant disgust her. Apparently she is totally fine when it is done to male infant.

Wow, didn't know. Very interesting.

It isn't easy for everyone to buy btc in cash.

Anyway it doesn't matter. it is just to get something like $200 to start his trading journey on exchange.

+ kyc bitcoin doesn't matter anyway after he will dump them on Bisq to get his no kyc Monero.

No you can't. You need to own some monero on your own first.

Why, for paying the security deposit.

The goal here is to discourage scammer. So if a scammer is trying to scam you $100 and he fail, he will lose $120.

That is why scammers are very rare on Haveno or Bisq.

If you have no monero right now, but you have btc, you can trade some of your btc for monero with Bisq.

If you have only cash. maybe you should buy some kyc bitcoin first then trade them for monero on bisq

Same here, I am an BISQ user. But for trading with Monero, Haveno is better.

With Haveno your main currency is Monero, so you don't need to own some bitcoin for paying the security deposit. That is a huge boost.

In short, from my perspective.

Tradiing with BTC = Bisq

Trading with Monero = Haveno

Bro, I just spend something like 2 hours to learn about gpg/sign/encrypt stuff and tried it on Haveno. But even after all this time, I don't know if the files I download is original or not.

1st, from your link, I get the public keys "reto_public.asc" which I don't find in the original github webpage https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto

2nd, from their github, I found instead the public key "woodser.asc" https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/blob/master/gpg_keys/woodser.asc

And last, After I download "HavenoInstaller-windows-latest.zip.sig" & "HavenoInstaller-windows-latest.zip" and try to verify the signature, Only your public key ""reto_public.asc" works, the github public key "woodser.asc" doesn't.

I got no idea about Haveno. But I can highly recommend you to use Bisq instead.

Bisq is 100% on Tor, you only trade P2P, but you need at least some bitcoin to start trading, even monero, like 0.02 btc. Because the security fund can only be through BTC.

If you try to scam someone and you failed the dispute, you lose your security fund, it is something like 20% transaction fund. So there aren't any scammer there, at least I never meet one and I already made more than 20 transactions there.

Starting the application may sometimes be problematic (many bugs or tor attack which prevent the app to launch properly), but if you run a full bitcoin node on your computer, there won't be any more problems at startup.