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Dear Bitcoiners on #nostr,

For some, when you see or hear someone say they are a progressive/left bitcoiner, some of you lead to attacks, questioning and probing, assuming:

“pffft that’s not possible, how stupid can you be!”

I’ve been at this for over 3 years now. What you should do is take a step back, and realize how incredible it is that a progressive probably broke ranks heavily (think Liz Warren, greenpeace, woke police etc etc) to learn about and advocate for bitcoin. That’s really cool and a hard thing to do! Tribalism is deep and can produce awful things that get in the way of independent thought, truth, and progress.

Most progressives in bitcoin are not your caricature of the modern progressive that wants big government control, censorship, against free speech, MMT, etc etc. they’re bitcoiners that advocate for social change and progress, the true essence of the word, and believe there is a role Bitcoin can play in improving the lives of everyone, especially those downtrodden by society and the government. And those of us on the left in Bitcoin are socially liberal - we’re anti-war, pro lgbtqia+, pro women and freedom, and pro people gaining true financial freedom and prosperity.

Progressive bitcoiner does not equal democrat foot-soldier

Hell, most of us are politically homeless, as are you probably.

And at the end of the day these political labels can paint a bit of a picture but are inadequate at best, harmful at worst.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

#progressive #left #bitcoin

I understand where you're coming from because I also considered myself left/progressive when I entered bitcoin. I have heard nostr:nprofile1qqstm84k2lp9knmvmf5gw88zvfvar7duvfpqfplryfystdn55ug2gksprfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68yurvv438xtnrdaksz9thwden5te0wahhgtnwdaehgu3wwpshyareqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2j8uly5 and nostr:nprofile1qqsp4lsvwn3aw7zwh2f6tcl6249xa6cpj2x3yuu6azaysvncdqywxmgprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvq9n8wumn8ghj7enfd36x2u3wdehhxarj9emkjmn99ah8qatzx9e8gmr3vdsnsu3kv96hjcthx4hr26pnds6ngv3jv3kngumj0y6kg7nxv4jngd3exen8zefcwvm8zem4v34hxdmydf6xvuelvfex7ctyvdshxapaw3e82egpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejs5mzk3a say the same thing.

Emotionally I understand the desire for equality, justice, peace, and freedom; all of which are accounted for in libertarian theory without the use of government coersion.

It took me a lot of arguments, studying, and self reflection to realize that the majority of bitcoiners correctly associate leftism with communism and progressivism with socialism. Philosophically, politically, economically, and historically that is the case.

All of these terms are shadows on the cave wall, but the practical implications of adopting a particular political or philosophical theory does matter in my view.

If you want to continue using those terms to define yourself you'll likely continue to find resistance with bitcoiners until a fresh batch shows up in the next bull run.

We don't need to agree to work together for a better future, but any attempt to reconcile leftist ideology with bitcoin is cognitive dissonance in my experience.

Mad respect to your work and your journey. I'm grateful a majority of mine happened internally 😂

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“We don't need to agree to work together for a better future, but any attempt to reconcile leftist ideology with bitcoin is cognitive dissonance in my experience. “

You know how those who support Trump typically buy all the hats & yard signs 🪧 & proclaim their support outwardly?

In my experience, most leftists & progressives have little need to proclaim to the world their beliefs. Bluntly: we don’t believe one person is a figurehead for all of us.

That said, it’s possible you may never see a “fresh batch” show up in large numbers. Many of us don’t need a “tribe” surrounding us. We are self sufficient & self-sovereign. 🫡🙏🫂

“Emotionally I understand the desire for equality, justice, peace, and freedom; all of which are accounted for in libertarian theory without the use of government coersion.”

Can you understand logically who built Bitcoin in the beginning? Genuinely. No sassy 💁🏻‍♀️ sauce.