I really think everyone needs to listen to this stuff. I think flat earthers are wrong, but it’s important to know how convinced people who are wrong can be (whether you think the earth is flat or not). Lots of people just don’t even know how easy it is to be wrong.

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Yeah, I used to think so too. Then I started listening to and watching a lot of these discussions and my mind was changed. I am by no means an expert on the subject, I'm still learning. But there are far too many flaws, fallacies, and assumptions within the heliocentric model for me to continue believing in it. Even if you discard the idea of flat earth, the theories and observations that the mainstream claim and try to pass off as fact really do not align with much of what we observe, from my point of view.

I bet many open-minded people who are not married to an ideological belief would have their minds changed in the same way, if they just shut up and listen (in the nicest way).

I read once of an idea to have a reality show where some flat earthers are given like 50 bitcoin to travel around the South Pole, or go to the moon, or whatever they want. They are in charge. That seems like it’d be a win win. If they are able to produce compelling evidence, then great, if not, great, and either way one party would be wrong and that would be great entertainment.

I thought I saw some flat earthers try out shining a ray of light far away and had to adjust it down as expected by a spherical earth 🤔

Is there a test that most flat earthers agree would be death to their theory?

When the human brain wants to believe something, no matter how wrong it is, it is somehow right. It's fantastic.

Yup. Sobering