I so both. They both have their pros and cons.

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I'd say the biggest con of a greenhouse is expensive. I had one and tried to grow a mango tree but heating and cooling it year round was expensive. I don't like farming outside. It's old school

It is expensive, nothing compares to direct sunlight, and some things just really like the ability to roam in free, open soil.

Yeah the direct sun and outside help like beneficial insects usually outweigh the problems of a late frost,

πŸ’― and the birds! I tried growing brassicas inside once πŸ’€

Yeah the birds tooπŸ™‚ and even things like wasps people hate them because they can be super annoying late in the summer once they are starving kicked out the nest but they don't get any credit killing all the things earlier in the season.

Yep, wasps pollinate the fennel I grow, too. It's funny how docile they get around that plant, like they're high.

πŸ’š I am not even a huge fan of fennel , I mainly grow it for the beneficial insects πŸ™‚

I grow it for the seeds so I can make sausage. The plant as a veggie is meh.

People here use it for fish but apart from fish and chips people don't like fish so they don't use it πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Polish people use it in soup it ok, but not great ...

Work with nature. Not against.

If you learn your zone there's always a way to be successful outside with plants that thrive in your area.

Alas, some years are just bummers

My zone is a moody, uncategorizable b_🀬 sometimes πŸ˜…

Do you direct sow or start seedlings.

I'm 4a so need to do a combination of both.

Over the years I grow more and more root vegies and skip out on the tomatoes. I find there's less maintenance on garlic, sweet potatoes and potatoes.

Crawlers (squash and pumpkins) in my area also seem to be very pest resistant and the deer don't munch neither

With that crop profile you could grow here!

I'd be happy with a garlic and onion only garden πŸ€™

I do both, too. 3b (that really should be labeled as a 3a). Roots do great here but I don't eat a lot of them, so i quit growing most. My garlic & onions do ok. Vines are great some years, but the season is often too short for high yield. Cucumbers though πŸš€πŸ˜‚

No onions πŸ‘€?

I didn't know you live in England. Dawn πŸ˜‚

Dawn is everywhere 😁

We can get extremely close to replicating the sun indoors and in some cases outperform the sun, it it takes serious gear, planning and energy but most of all money.

but nature still wins for simplicity and cost.

Ya you're pretty much right about that and the second thing. Someday will can with enough energy but we are not close