shelter in place? they're the freakin' navy. we will never win another war.
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They are completely disarmed on bases and academy apparently
lame. Taps scared them off.
I’m sure all the cadets are unarmed on campus.
Sure but arm them up fast just like you would in the field. most of them are older that the rank and file already in the Marines.
I agree. Shooting up a military facility should be the worst fucking idea. Crazy it’s not…
If you walk into a military facility and think you're going to shoot it up, you should figure you'll be dead by the time you raise your weapon. Think you could do this in China or Russia? I bet not.
William, its a college. Considering none of the students are armed shelter in place makes sense. Hope they're safe and come through alright.
It's not a college. It's a war academy.
To develop Midshipmen morally, mentally and physically and to imbue them with the highest ideals of duty, honor and loyalty in order to graduate leaders who are dedicated to a career of naval service and have potential for future development in mind and character to assume the highest responsibilities of command, citizenship and government.
I commisioned from there, its not a war academy. It's a college with some military added in.
I was in the corps of cadets at Texad A&M. There were commissioned Midshipmen and Marines in our ranks. They wouldn't have put up with that shit.
Could you have personal firearms in your dorm? Firearms are strictly controlled to on duty guards at gates. Similar to bases no one has a firearm readily available. That dorm is basically a fortress when locked down unless some idiot lets an intrudor through a door. No one at USNA puts up with it and a mid who thought a police officer was the shooter was shot by surprise attacking him. Secure in place allows security or pick your security team name to go through the premises and and remove variables by seeing if someone is randomly moving they probably shouldnt be there. If everyone is randomly patrolling playing rambo you introduce more chance for error.
You'd probably get kicked out, but there was no duty officer checking. I don't ever remember an inspection of our foot lockers or our vehicles.
You may recall the mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009 where the shooter (a soldier) took advantage of the no arms on base rule to kill 13 and injure 30 others. It's easy to second guess this stuff, and I can't account for real issues soldiers face, but to be a soldier killed on a base or school seems unnecessary to me.
USNA does randomly inspect rooms/vehicles and con lockers when ordered. There's no check them into secure storage, its a 100% cannot be on campus. The only "weapon" is an M1 with a blocked barrel and no firing pin for drills and parade purposes.
Were you allowed to carry knives or sabers?
A small pocket knife and swords are dull and ceremonial
huh. Weird. Can't imagine why you all couldn't be trusted, and I mean that.
For the same reason they modified all windows the summer after my plebe year to only open 6 inches vs opening all the way. Someone did something stupid and leadership went high and right.
MIDREGs is a fun piece of work
Sounds like insanity at the academies. We were clinbing out of 3rd story windows with literal bedsheets ropes in the Corps. And in case you didn't see my other post, all Texas public college students are permitted to carry a gun on them on campus if they have an LTC permit.
I did see it and believe me we had similar conversations while i was there about restrictions placed on us for any stupid reason. Similar to how they would wonder why students drank so much on weekends. Im not sure maybe because they cant leave campus except for 12 hours freshman year to maybe 48 by their senior. Its like a starting gun and its a race until liberty is over.
hmm. There was a lot more liberty at A&M, and yet it somehow produces a significant number of new officers every year. I didn't go that route, and I'm glad I didn't since I would have ended up in the propaganda wing (journalism major). But I knew hundreds of guys who did. The Academies may be more prestigious, but I think a less restrictive environment produces an equally ready group of soldiers. Maybe better, but I won't argue that here.
Anyway, my original criticism still stands, and frankly around the A&M Corps members, an active shooter wouldn't last long.
I should also note that all students at public Texas universities have the right to carry a firearm. This has been the case for years, and to my knowledge there hasn't been a case of a student shooting another on campus. If the rando Texas student is responsible enough to handle a firearm, why can't a cadet or soldier in a US military school or installation be trusted to do the same?