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I wasn't sure you were being intellectually honest. Guy has proposed vaccine debate. That's what I'm referring to.

Elemental aluminum doesn't exist in vaccines -- aluminum and aluminum salts are not identical. Also vaccines aren't injected into the bloodstream, while Guy was claiming it was important to measure the effect of these compounds being injected directly into the bloodstream -- which isn't relevant to the vaccine conversation.

bitbuybyte 2y ago

If a needle goes into your arm, you are injected with liquid, and you bleed after,(Basically everyone) the vaccine will be carried in the bloodstream.

Guy said ‘aluminum,’ not ‘elemental aluminum.’ It seems like you are just adding words and not being intellectually honest while deflecting.

What’s your angle on this, and you have no right to decide whose “lane” is whose. (Especially on a public social media platform)

It reminds me of those authoritarians in the COVID days trying to shut down discussion. Basically they all lied and most discussing ‘outside their lane’ were right.

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mattybs 2y ago

There is a significant difference between injecting something into muscle and injecting it directly to your bloodstream. I called that out because it was a specific claim in Guy's post.

And regarding COVID, who "outside their lane" was proven right?

Zach⚡️ 2y ago

Almost everyone. I had a coworker who is a line cook who was 100% right about the vaccine ineffectiveness and the economic fallout from COVID. The only people who were consistently wrong, over and over again, were the supposed experts and the people blindly following their orders.

Sourcenode 2y ago

These types of conversations are the reason I am on nostr. It can't happen anywhere else.

Guy's post may have been missing some specificity, but the broad claims in that post still stand as far as this conversation goes.

Matt's responses have been semantic and primarily oriented around dismissing information which I understand to be mostly true.

If something in Guy's post needs to be clarified I imagine he will benefit from the increased accuracy of information as he continue to research this topic 🙂

bitbuybyte 2y ago

My brother in Christ! Everyone who pushed back against mainstream narrative largely pushed by the WHO and government health officials, with help from many governors and the media to propagate the message. Basically almost anyone who said the opposite of what the media was saying during that time period largely came out being correct.

The propaganda machines was

wrong about no human to human transmission

-they were wrong that the virus wasn’t developed in a lab

-they were wrong that it came from bats

-they were wrong about the vaccine’s efficacy (99%, 95%, <50%, 20%, and it kept dropping and they kept moving the goalposts and pushing boosters with more draconian measures)

-they were wrong about the vaccines safety

-they were wrong to push services members out who refused the vaccine and are begging them to come back now (picture attached)

-they lied that the vaccinated didn’t transmit the virus or transmitted it less so than the unvaccinated

-they lied about masks and their effectiveness at stopping transmission

This is just off the top of my head. Some you could still argue based on semantics, but largely everything above is indisputable.

People who pushed back against this were lambasted, fired, shoved into a corner, dehumanized, censored, and everything in between. NOSTR exists probably largely BECAUSE of the events between 2020-2022.

bitbuybyte 2y ago