Nostr Web Client

wss://relays.land/spatianostra currently has 223 unique users contributing content to the voting pool and a collection of majority voters who passively create a positive, diverse, and engaging Nostr experience. Active voters are focused on maintaining a welcoming space that's not overwhelmed by any particular topic (except #flowerstr 😄).

It's available to new users in https://jumble.social as a default. If you've been reluctant to introduce your friends & family to Nostr because of "echo chambers" or the sketchy "global" feeds, check it out. It's a soft landing place for anyone who wants to figure out how to navigate Nostr.

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

Dikaios1517 5mo ago

Can you give me the low-down on how this works? How are other users able to "vote" for what content ends up on this relay?

The relay was seeded with a set of users who were assigned a number of shares. Every reaction, repost, or authored note is considered to be a vote with all available shares from that voter for a piece of content. The voting action can be made from any client. Currently, a note must reach 25% of all available shares to move to the main feed. Once a note meets or surpasses that 25%, it's author gains 1 share and becomes a voting/contributing member.

This one was initially set so that the seed voters maintain heavy voting weight for a longer length of time, since the goal is to create a welcoming onboarding space with some longevity. Over time, voting weight will shift & input from the relay's contributing community will take over control.

You can check the current list of contributors/voters at https://relays.land/spatianostra . Anyone who is listed there can visit the staging area linked on the page to actively cast votes for nominated content by reacting or reposting. Even if not visiting the staging area, voting is done passively as described above.

Shares are still quite low for most of the voted-in contributors but I encourage anyone who's interested in participating to try it out. I would love to hear what more people think of this concept. More so, I'd love to see people contribute content with the intention of earning more shares for themselves.

This is still very much in an experimental phase, so any input is great. If someone's reasoning & commitment is strong enough, we might be able to persuade the captain of this ship to make some manual adjustments, though the concept is to avoid needing to do that. Eventually the threshold of the community vote will outstrip that of the founding voters.

It's been really interesting to participate in, on a personal level. We all know 'likes' are algorithm food for our own traditional social media feeds & in some obscure ways for others' too... but when all the abstractions are removed & its clear that a simple action has a direct impact on new users, the way we interact with content changes. nostr:nprofile1qqsymsh9wrz5lmurz0arqn6jjaqyfmtvz2z3qpfxqz5msnvr0wqjd7gprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7w78rt6 and I have both experienced a moment of "Whoa, our likes have value" haha

Dikaios1517 5mo ago

Wow! I love seeing interesting relays like this!

Definitely something I would browse as its own feed, rather than sticking it into a slot as a regular read relay.

Yep, that's the idea. This one is pretty focused on a clean & friendly new user experience. Other instances could have voting groups that focus on news, high-signal learning resources, a specific topic or whatever.

interesting

It is... I think nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp had some ideas to expand upon the concept eventually, but this was a good starting point to see how something like this would work. The experiment has gone pretty well so far.

ThatWhichisNotSeen 5mo ago

This is a cool relay and a cool experiment. Will check it out 🤙

Please do! If you're not listed as a voter already, please feel free to tag myself or nostr:nprofile1qqsymsh9wrz5lmurz0arqn6jjaqyfmtvz2z3qpfxqz5msnvr0wqjd7gprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7w78rt6 on some note you think would be good for the feed, so we can consider it for our votes. 😊

徒settoセット 𓁣 🏴 5mo ago

Is the source code of the relay available somewhere? Pardon me if silly question, couldn't find any info about that on the https end of the URL...

Yeah, the link is actually at the bottom of https://relays.land . It's the Dynamic Voting Relay.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 5mo ago

Am I somehow blacklisted from this like a lot of nostr things, or should I try it?

Content is voted on by existing contributors. Almost everything is blocked. It's curation by consensus.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 5mo ago

About 75% of the shares are held by people who target me so it seems like it will be a while before the percentage of people who don't is so far above 25% that a full 25% can discover and vote on one of my posts at the same time

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 5mo ago

And that's a conservative estimate - it might be more like 90% of the shares right now from a quick look at the list

Interesting. Expand on this?

No one writes notes directly to this relay. It collects notes, then only serves the ones that have met the approval threshold described in my other replies.

I'm assuming you read my other replies here about it. If not, I can expand further or repost them for you. I'm just being lazy at the moment. (Disclaimer, though.. I am not the... or even a... software developer, just a tester & advocate so I can't answer real technical questions very well 😅)

No I haven't read anything and completely new to this platform! Upi were the first person I followed and replied to!

Hey, hi! Welcome to #thenostr ! Are you finding your way around the place? It can be a little confusing at first.

Oh I am so confused but I have been drawn to this platform because done with centralised control and audiences being monetised and monetising others. So yes I'm here to learn!

Haha, that's understandable! Which client/app are you using?

If you don't mind me asking, where did you learn about nostr?

Using the Amethyst app currently. Heard about it through Jeff Booth who mentioned it and so I thought id check it out.

Amethyst is a great app! I use it all the time. Its got a ton of features that interact with other Nostr stuff. You can do all sorts of crazy things with it. What kind of confusion are you having?

REDKAZ⚡️| YakiHonne 5mo ago

it is available on yakihonne also for users to add their custom relays or lod their 10012 list 🙏

daniele 5mo ago

Another interesting innovation powered by a nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp's idea, check the comments for more information about the vote mechanism.

nostr:nevent1qqs25nzgzgyphmuvppycm5ykzs4twf9xu475qptsrynxdp858sylm6spz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qcgcwm56v5hyrrzl5ty4vq4kdud63n5u4czgycdl2r3jshzk55ufqxpqqqqqqzkm372x

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 5mo ago

Looks like I'm basically blacklisted from this for the foreseeable future by most of all the early shareholders being among the people who target me

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 5mo ago

I typed "most or all" and apparently it got changed to "most of all"

Just happened again when I was typing this comment to correct it

Fucking annoying. Still need edits on nostr

I am on the list? 😯

Do I need to do something? Add a relay?

You are... you can go here & sign in to vote. Just click like on any notes that you enjoy. That is the easiest way.

https://jumble.social/?r=relays.land/spatianostra/staging

You don't need to add or adjust your relays.

I am glad I don't have to adjust relays as I don't actually know how to do that🫣 hehe

You actually don't _need_ to do anything differently than you do now. Just going about your normal activities is what I have been referring to as passive participation. But we would love it if you opt to scroll the staging feed and cast your votes on occasion. 💜

If you ever need help with your relay setup, feel free to ask. I'm no expert but I know a few things 😊

This is the staging feed?

Thank u so much🥹

I've bookmarked and added to homescreen🫶

Thank you! I'd love to hear what you think of it after a bit, if you don't mind.

I seem to be unable to send zaps, but this is problem I've not been able to solve on other clients too🫠 (primal gives a "this feature is unavailable in your country" pop up, and amethyst just doesn't let the transaction go through)

Hmm.. which wallet?

When I first started on primal I connected Wallet of Satoshi, I seem to be able to recive zaps through that.

Every client I log into automatically connect to the wos wallet, with the exception of fountain which has an internal wallet. If I try to zap from the fountain wallet, the app redirects to primal (or if I uninstall that, amethyst) and I get the "unavailable in your country" pop up.

I've only stumbled into btc this year and I don't understand how lightning works yet 🫠

Plight of an analog girly🥲

Ok... your Wallet of Satoshi is in your profile as your receiving address. All nostr apps will find your profile data from relays so anything you receive will go there. That one has some regional limitations. Is there any app that you can successfully send from right now or is it all failures?

I've only tried out wallet of satoshi so far, and it's been failures on all nostr apps I've tried (4 + jumble).

As an experiment I made a 2nd wos wallet and was able to send and recive sats with the 1st wallet via qr code.

If there's a different wallet I could use without regional limits that would be great👀

minibits.cash ... it's been the easiest to understand & the most reliable for me. You should be able to send your WoS balance to it the same way you did between the 2 WoS's.

It will also get you learning about cashu & mints but its default settings work well enough that you shouldn't need to worry about it much at first.

Oh my lord it works

💜 happy zapping!

Thank you so much🥹

I forgot I had set my default zap message months ago🫣

the zap went through so smoothly I didn't have a chance to change it or anything 🫣🫣

I've seen discussion about cashu and mint! I will vague my way around and pick things up 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶

Actually, can you tell me if the zaps went through? the balance on minibits hasn't changed and I'm nervous again 🫠

I have not received anything, no.

In minibits, go to settings>nostr wallet connect>add connection. Follow those steps to name the app & set a budget. Tap the little QR symbol it creates next to the name, then tap copy.

Then in Jumble, tap your profile picture>wallet>connect wallet>nostr wallet connect and paste the string you copied from minibits.

It's not working🫠🫠

So close....

Its working now! 🥳 sometimes jumble shows an error that isn't actually an error. Minibits should send you a push notification that they do actually go through

nostr:nprofile1qqsz0yuyju3xdq78q83gg0rdkkqw9u8ztadpnr6vxwt78g9zwajzzhgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgjwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcl376pq you should be able to follow that process to set up zapping with minbits in other clients that you use too. The details will be different but the process will be similar.

You are wonderful. Thank you so much😚😚