Can you give me the low-down on how this works? How are other users able to "vote" for what content ends up on this relay?
wss://relays.land/spatianostra currently has 223 unique users contributing content to the voting pool and a collection of majority voters who passively create a positive, diverse, and engaging Nostr experience. Active voters are focused on maintaining a welcoming space that's not overwhelmed by any particular topic (except #flowerstr π).
It's available to new users in https://jumble.social as a default. If you've been reluctant to introduce your friends & family to Nostr because of "echo chambers" or the sketchy "global" feeds, check it out. It's a soft landing place for anyone who wants to figure out how to navigate Nostr.
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The relay was seeded with a set of users who were assigned a number of shares. Every reaction, repost, or authored note is considered to be a vote with all available shares from that voter for a piece of content. The voting action can be made from any client. Currently, a note must reach 25% of all available shares to move to the main feed. Once a note meets or surpasses that 25%, it's author gains 1 share and becomes a voting/contributing member.
This one was initially set so that the seed voters maintain heavy voting weight for a longer length of time, since the goal is to create a welcoming onboarding space with some longevity. Over time, voting weight will shift & input from the relay's contributing community will take over control.
You can check the current list of contributors/voters at https://relays.land/spatianostra . Anyone who is listed there can visit the staging area linked on the page to actively cast votes for nominated content by reacting or reposting. Even if not visiting the staging area, voting is done passively as described above.
Shares are still quite low for most of the voted-in contributors but I encourage anyone who's interested in participating to try it out. I would love to hear what more people think of this concept. More so, I'd love to see people contribute content with the intention of earning more shares for themselves.
This is still very much in an experimental phase, so any input is great. If someone's reasoning & commitment is strong enough, we might be able to persuade the captain of this ship to make some manual adjustments, though the concept is to avoid needing to do that. Eventually the threshold of the community vote will outstrip that of the founding voters.
It's been really interesting to participate in, on a personal level. We all know 'likes' are algorithm food for our own traditional social media feeds & in some obscure ways for others' too... but when all the abstractions are removed & its clear that a simple action has a direct impact on new users, the way we interact with content changes. nostr:nprofile1qqsymsh9wrz5lmurz0arqn6jjaqyfmtvz2z3qpfxqz5msnvr0wqjd7gprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7w78rt6 and I have both experienced a moment of "Whoa, our likes have value" haha
Wow! I love seeing interesting relays like this!
Definitely something I would browse as its own feed, rather than sticking it into a slot as a regular read relay.
Yep, that's the idea. This one is pretty focused on a clean & friendly new user experience. Other instances could have voting groups that focus on news, high-signal learning resources, a specific topic or whatever.
interesting
It is... I think nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp had some ideas to expand upon the concept eventually, but this was a good starting point to see how something like this would work. The experiment has gone pretty well so far.
This is a cool relay and a cool experiment. Will check it out π€
Please do! If you're not listed as a voter already, please feel free to tag myself or nostr:nprofile1qqsymsh9wrz5lmurz0arqn6jjaqyfmtvz2z3qpfxqz5msnvr0wqjd7gprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshszymhwden5te0wahhgtn4w3ux7tn0dejj7w78rt6 on some note you think would be good for the feed, so we can consider it for our votes. π
Is the source code of the relay available somewhere? Pardon me if silly question, couldn't find any info about that on the https end of the URL...
Yeah, the link is actually at the bottom of https://relays.land . It's the Dynamic Voting Relay.
Am I somehow blacklisted from this like a lot of nostr things, or should I try it?
Content is voted on by existing contributors. Almost everything is blocked. It's curation by consensus.
About 75% of the shares are held by people who target me so it seems like it will be a while before the percentage of people who don't is so far above 25% that a full 25% can discover and vote on one of my posts at the same time
And that's a conservative estimate - it might be more like 90% of the shares right now from a quick look at the list
Interesting. Expand on this?
No one writes notes directly to this relay. It collects notes, then only serves the ones that have met the approval threshold described in my other replies.
I'm assuming you read my other replies here about it. If not, I can expand further or repost them for you. I'm just being lazy at the moment. (Disclaimer, though.. I am not the... or even a... software developer, just a tester & advocate so I can't answer real technical questions very well π )
No I haven't read anything and completely new to this platform! Upi were the first person I followed and replied to!
Hey, hi! Welcome to #thenostr ! Are you finding your way around the place? It can be a little confusing at first.
Oh I am so confused but I have been drawn to this platform because done with centralised control and audiences being monetised and monetising others. So yes I'm here to learn!
Haha, that's understandable! Which client/app are you using?
If you don't mind me asking, where did you learn about nostr?
Using the Amethyst app currently. Heard about it through Jeff Booth who mentioned it and so I thought id check it out.
Amethyst is a great app! I use it all the time. Its got a ton of features that interact with other Nostr stuff. You can do all sorts of crazy things with it. What kind of confusion are you having?