What are these women actually giving them in return?
I bet it’s not just intelligent conversations.
What are these women actually giving them in return?
I bet it’s not just intelligent conversations.
Maybe. 🤔 I don't know. You think it's like a sugarbaby thing?
I'm totally out of the loop. 😂
I guess so, I mean there’s plenty of women out there that enjoy luxury labeled items and want to show it off on insta and that.
I personally cannot stand luxury brand labels that scream ‘look at me’!
But that’s me I’m in a minority not the majority.
Same.
I'm big on coffee cups, tho. I have 4 of them, now. I stand in front of the cupboard like other women stand in front of their closets.
Strangely enough, I live in a rural region where men significantly outnumber women, and none of the women expect more luxurios treatment from guys they're dating. And they're probably dating one guy per year, or so, or less.
Seems to be maybe an urban thing.
Maybe it's just that the women here expect to marry and the city girls are like, gotta milk this, while it lasts.
I think some have lost their ways and morals to show off what they have, where they go and what they wear. It’s all about having expensive items/holidays to impress people that you don’t like. I don’t get it.
Perhaps they don't value themselves enough
Or too highly. Or both, in some bizarre combination.
But we do have high expectations, in our own way, don't we?
Like, we expect more attentiveness, reliability and empathy. If he's late or will be away for awhile, I'd expect him to call or text me. If I've had a bad day at work, I expect him to at least pretend to care and give me a hug, and let me rant. Bring me something to drink, if he sees me chatting with my friends on the couch. Visit me in the hospital and bring me something to read and my favorite pillow.
That sort of thing. Probably quite rare, nowadays. Modern dating often be like

That's a good thought. And it's definitely true. I have really high expectations. More immaterial expectations. To the partner in itself. It's just the material things that seem so trivial to me. So not in principle. Financial security should not be underestimated. But not some Gucci nonsense.
Yeah, I guess I'm looking at character traits. Same stuff I'd look for in a friend, employee, or even a business partner, I guess.
I don't like drama, ghosting, meanness, indifference, tardiness, wastefullness, etc. No amount of money would make up for that. And someone with good character traits is a better financial bet, overall, in lots of different ways.
Like, my husband does a good job when he's at home with the kids. I can go to work or school and I come home and everything is fine and he's cooking dinner and is like, How was your day, honey?
He's just a good person.
I really needed that, too! I tend to have jobs with odd hours or business trips. If I'm off at a conference for a week or two, I don't want to come home to the kids half-starved and the house looking like it's been hit by a tornado.
I want to come home to some nice pasta and a glass of 🍷 and someone to talk to.
That's what a partnership is all about. Building something together, being there for each other, raising children together, standing up for each other, being able to rely on each other. It's give and take. I definitely need that in a relationship too. That's real appreciation. The appreciation that I want
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And that's exactly why I have the feeling that these women don't value themselves enough. They only pay attention to financial benefits, they obviously think that they are not worth high expectations in the interpersonal sphere, i.e. when it comes to a man taking care of them beyond the financial aspect.
Let's be honest. It's all about nasty blowjobs or something similar. Some women think that they can have an army like that without doing nothing, but not the case
So, they're like amateur prostitutes. Makes sense.
Maybe you can say these are top professional prostitutes. Hard to find a woman that with a certain PRICE, gives you an awesome blowjob, play the piano, gives an advice and simultaneously escorts you on meetings pretending to be or literally be your wife.
Some men get what they want giving a price without having to be faithful at all. And that's all they know about women because some women do what women do to whoever, no matter who this is, gives a certain price or package of things.
So when you said the other time about who is paying on the first date...
That's about a formal tradition, tho, like helping me with my coat and walking on the street-side of the sidewalk.
And, if he doesn't have money, he can always pack a picnic or cook something or meet up someplace inexpensive, like a café. It's not about the amount being spent.
Well yes.