It's so funny, when you hear about all of these women with armies of simps who buy them luxury goods, take them out to fancy dinners, and fly them on exotic vacations, when normal women are hardly approached or asked to split the check at the bakery.
And then consider that a lot beautiful women are crowded into the "normal" group. 😂
It's all about attitude, I guess.
That lifestyle sounds exhausting. Both sides.
It does. Doesn't even sound appealing to me.
Like.... Can't we just Netflix and chill, instead? 😂
Like when I see influencers posting from their latest hotel or yacht harbor and it's like... they have such a crappy life. I get to hang out in Oma's garden.
All that shit's rented anyway. Like, cool story bro I've stayed at some nice AirBnB's too.
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Hi guys, pardon the interruption. I need some help finding harassers to document / observe. I have posted a bounty (Its only 20k sats so far but growing) for anyone who can bring me to the scene of one of these harassments that justifies censorship. I have a feeling "keeping the ladies safe" is being used as a vector to censor the relays but dont want anyone being harassed either. Just need to see some for myself to understand and start thinking this through.
Thanks for the vine. this is not a joke. Laeserin knows how i feel about protecting a space you care about.
You're the fifth guy that's asked me for this and I'm done digging up my old reports. It's all public data.
I didnt feel comfortable creeping your data. meant no offense. just lemme know if you see it happening to anyone anywhere
I muted one who harassed me and called me whore, so can’t help you because I don’t feed those types of critters attention.
thanks. keep looking out. dont dig up old stuff. i just wanna see what is happening. am gonna keep adding to the bounty as trades close. the nostr devs were gonna get the next 100k but im putting it towards sorting out the harasser question instead.
Check mutes and reports, like nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgnwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxtcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ukzcnvv5hx7un89uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxarj9e3xzmny9uq3samnwvaz7tmxd9k8getj9ehx7um5wgh8w6twv5hszxmhwden5te0w35x2en0wfjhxapwdehhxarjxyhxxmmd9uqzp2t2xk3zgsptsp6ufk3q7prh3940eseetdh66clrpfjg4q3z56nfea79cg does.
That is history. I want to see and help in current and upcoming situations. I want or need nothing from anyone here. All I need is some clarity so that I can shut up the insulting narrative that is being promoted about nostr. I am no saint and no ones hero but I am tired of having the place i hang out everyday insulted.
Mute them and report it, when you see it.
thats what I thought the protocol was. seems to work for the ppl on my follow list. It appears to not be sufficient though since we are constantly called the wild west and referred to like ferals. this is on aggregate a better informed, more capable, more principled (even if i disagree) set of people than i have seen elsewhere social platform or irl
I just mute them. Easy. Don’t feed a parasite it leaves the host.
seems like isnt that easy for everyone though from what i keep hearing (from men exclusively at this point ironically) so i wanna see. call me a masochist but i wanna see these creatures so foul that censorship should be discussed.
Then look at who is blocked and find the patterns. It’s not that hard
Or reported / muted
thats history and i have no context. i would rather show up and help and take notes. I prefer direct human to human interaction where possible. cuts down on the back pedalling and fuggery.
We have nothing to prove to you.
I am not asking you to defend or prove anything. this is the first convo we have had on the suhbject and have no idea if you have been harassed. if you have then am sorry. dont mean to bring up bad memories. you have nothing to prove or defend or even assert. I asked for help and it seems to have upset you. not my intention. be well
Nothing to prove or disprove. They asked questions, we answered. And now I’m done. GM 🌞
I am up to 7500 sats per harasser now and still no takers. will continue
proud feral and wild westerner here
i don't see all that shit because i hardly follow anyone, even when i look at global doesn't seem to me like these people are really here in any great percentage
You're on the better relays.
That's why I keep promoting relay management.
which are the shiddy relays. i wanna join and go see. like a field trip. no gross pervert stuff please. cops can handle those.
i thinks the froggy protesteth too much
elaborate please
surely the haters on the other social platforms would have better advice anyway, but i just simply haven't seen very much except the odd twit posting gay porn photos in replies sometimes
that has been my experience as well. i have started to get a little offended by the way nostr is being characterized and it seems to always come from those who want to propose centralized censorship measures. So I want to see this band of harassers for myself. From my experience here, I think they are far less potent here than elsewhere. so why the consistent safety for the ladies narrative?
the bounty continues to rise and still no takers. I will let it sit if it gets to 100k and see how long it takes to find 4 current cases that I can see in progress.
ah... i follow nostr:npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl and watched the roya and noshole meltdowns and the harassment comes more to the ones who present as female
so if you want to see, maybe try making an alt where you pretend to be a 18 year old koreabot and see what happens
i just wanna see first hand
the steem blockchain forum, which is now run by Justin Sun, is pretty much a koreabot haven, the number of identical profile pics i've seen from back in the day, i don't expect it's got any different
I can't seem to find his handle but Duncan Palmer, who often posts from peakd, which is the Hive, one of the forks of Steem, will confirm what i say about steemit.com (you could even just go there yourself
anyhow, it will be interesting if you decide to try and do it, please do report your findings
And don't waste any time or thought on this. You have real work to do. Would never have broke ght u into it. Not ur scene. Be well
censorious folk have been on some shiddy safety ops since you have been gone. I am sick of being told that we are all degenerates in the wild west of degenerates when this is a way higher average information level group than any other social media group i have come across
i've not been gone, been here too much while i should be working probably
but yeah, i see this in other things like bluesky's announcements about super 54f3ty uPdAtEs lol
the great thing is that from a legal standpoint, nobody has a duty of care to do more than they legitimately actually can do about such mischief, and everyone in the dev community responds fast to outbreaks of bullshit, and many clients already have numerous countermeasures against the more common kinds of abuse
i don't understand what these snowflakes are on about
i made one post on reddit a few years back, and got piled in on by a bunch of "ackchually" trolls and discovered that i was not able to mute these dickwads and that was the first and last time i used it
nostr has a mute function, snowflakes are too weak and pale to be able to exercise any kind of self defense
bounty is now 30k and growing
What are these women actually giving them in return?
I bet it’s not just intelligent conversations.
Maybe. 🤔 I don't know. You think it's like a sugarbaby thing?
I'm totally out of the loop. 😂
I guess so, I mean there’s plenty of women out there that enjoy luxury labeled items and want to show it off on insta and that.
I personally cannot stand luxury brand labels that scream ‘look at me’!
But that’s me I’m in a minority not the majority.
Same.
I'm big on coffee cups, tho. I have 4 of them, now. I stand in front of the cupboard like other women stand in front of their closets.
Strangely enough, I live in a rural region where men significantly outnumber women, and none of the women expect more luxurios treatment from guys they're dating. And they're probably dating one guy per year, or so, or less.
Seems to be maybe an urban thing.
Maybe it's just that the women here expect to marry and the city girls are like, gotta milk this, while it lasts.
I think some have lost their ways and morals to show off what they have, where they go and what they wear. It’s all about having expensive items/holidays to impress people that you don’t like. I don’t get it.
Perhaps they don't value themselves enough
Or too highly. Or both, in some bizarre combination.
But we do have high expectations, in our own way, don't we?
Like, we expect more attentiveness, reliability and empathy. If he's late or will be away for awhile, I'd expect him to call or text me. If I've had a bad day at work, I expect him to at least pretend to care and give me a hug, and let me rant. Bring me something to drink, if he sees me chatting with my friends on the couch. Visit me in the hospital and bring me something to read and my favorite pillow.
That sort of thing. Probably quite rare, nowadays. Modern dating often be like
That's a good thought. And it's definitely true. I have really high expectations. More immaterial expectations. To the partner in itself. It's just the material things that seem so trivial to me. So not in principle. Financial security should not be underestimated. But not some Gucci nonsense.
Yeah, I guess I'm looking at character traits. Same stuff I'd look for in a friend, employee, or even a business partner, I guess.
I don't like drama, ghosting, meanness, indifference, tardiness, wastefullness, etc. No amount of money would make up for that. And someone with good character traits is a better financial bet, overall, in lots of different ways.
Like, my husband does a good job when he's at home with the kids. I can go to work or school and I come home and everything is fine and he's cooking dinner and is like, How was your day, honey?
He's just a good person.
I really needed that, too! I tend to have jobs with odd hours or business trips. If I'm off at a conference for a week or two, I don't want to come home to the kids half-starved and the house looking like it's been hit by a tornado.
I want to come home to some nice pasta and a glass of 🍷 and someone to talk to.
That's what a partnership is all about. Building something together, being there for each other, raising children together, standing up for each other, being able to rely on each other. It's give and take. I definitely need that in a relationship too. That's real appreciation. The appreciation that I want
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And that's exactly why I have the feeling that these women don't value themselves enough. They only pay attention to financial benefits, they obviously think that they are not worth high expectations in the interpersonal sphere, i.e. when it comes to a man taking care of them beyond the financial aspect.
Let's be honest. It's all about nasty blowjobs or something similar. Some women think that they can have an army like that without doing nothing, but not the case
So, they're like amateur prostitutes. Makes sense.
Maybe you can say these are top professional prostitutes. Hard to find a woman that with a certain PRICE, gives you an awesome blowjob, play the piano, gives an advice and simultaneously escorts you on meetings pretending to be or literally be your wife.
Some men get what they want giving a price without having to be faithful at all. And that's all they know about women because some women do what women do to whoever, no matter who this is, gives a certain price or package of things.
So when you said the other time about who is paying on the first date...
That's about a formal tradition, tho, like helping me with my coat and walking on the street-side of the sidewalk.
And, if he doesn't have money, he can always pack a picnic or cook something or meet up someplace inexpensive, like a café. It's not about the amount being spent.
Well yes.
Its just guys trying to buy his way into her pants
Maybe we are as humans pretty close to an inevitable point of inbreeding. In nature, living beings evolved based on reproduction, mutation and killing each other. Humans have (almost) bypassed the "killing each other" part thanks to the use of money
Maybe simping and other phenomenons are just signs of general inbreeding
