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The point of chivalry is not to treat housewives like housewives. It's to treat hoes like housewives.

That is why Da Bros absolutely hate the idea. They think women should have to "earn" chivalrous behavior. That women, as a group, are not inherently worthy of it.

They miss the point, entirely, that women love chivalry, and value it, when we see it given *indescriminately*. And only then. Because that means it's innate to the man, and a reflection of his own attentiveness, sense of honor, and protective instincts. It's not just some party trick he pulls out to get laid.

I'm not looking, as much, as to whether a man who finds me attractive is kind to me. I'm watching whether he is also kind _to other women_.

All other women. And children. And the disabled. And the frail or isolated.

Also, remaining chivalrous, despite the most rabid feminists whining about it, is called Being A Man. You know what women who aren't rabid feminists don't like? Men who take their cues from rabid feminists.

Cykros 4mo ago

Chivalry is about a heck of a lot more than how men treat women. It's about how men carry themselves with honor, which includes treating women (and other men, and children) with a degree of respect and magnanimity.

Failing to adhere to it is simply a sign of a lack of self respect. Those who respect themselves respect others, and value respectability.

Which isn't quite the same as worrying about what people think -- it's more behaving in a way that upstanding people wouldn't find to be a societal value add, and gracefully shrugging off the opinions of lesser men.

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Laeserin 🇻🇦 4mo ago 💬 1

I don't know if you missed the fact that this was also my argument.

The focus on women -- particularly, if you are, or want to be, romantically involved with them -- is because women (correctly) assume that the way you treat them is a reflection of your overall character.

If you have a strong incentive to treat her well, but you can't help but be callous or indifferent, it's safe to assume that your behavior would be the same, or worse, toward everyone else. You literally couldn't even pretend to not be an asshole, for one evening, even though it might have gotten you closer to her.

And the higher her MMV (to use the crude term), the more harshly she will judge your behavior toward other people. She's smart, discerning, and far-seeing. That's one of the reasons you wanted to date her. That's one of the reasons her MMV is so high.

She knows she won't always be at the top of her game. She knows the baby might scream all night. She knows her disabled brother might need a place to stay, at some point. She knows she might be infertile or become chronically ill. She knows married life is full of surprises, many unpleasant. She knows.

She knows. And she's watching you.

Make sure she gets home safe, or GTFO.

purrs_for_Her 4mo ago 💬 1

wow

this turned into a fantastic conversation...

and this just ties it all together perfectly. when i think about some of the biggest "icks" i've given my Wife, it wasn't necessarily the moments that i failed Her specifically, but the times i was careless, crude, or dismissive of others—the moments i step out of integrity—even in jest.

i think this is difficult for many young men to grasp. (maybe some older ones too lol)

Laeserin 🇻🇦 4mo ago 💬 1

And then she be like

purrs_for_Her 4mo ago 💬 2

and then i'm like:

Laeserin 🇻🇦 4mo ago 💬 1

Didn't know, if you'd catch the reference.

purrs_for_Her 4mo ago

lol :3

i'm a little eccentric.

maybe a bit weird.

but a romantic at heart <3

Cykros 4mo ago

Oh, I caught that. Just agreeing with you with verbosity :-).