Global nostr feeds without curation are totally useless. Actually I would say they are more harmful than anything. IMO clients should not offer global feeds unless they are curated. I don’t know the answer to the best way to curate, but I’m sure we can figure out something.
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Finding new plebs in global is PV
I think there are better ways. For instance just searching metadata.
Reducing the number of relays for global feed has cleaned it up nicely for me.
Sounds complicated
Not really.
Listing view of metadata data would be quite nice actually. Although worth mentioning that people can put crap in metadata too. But that could be filtered on client.
Am thinking we need to bring in the "down vote". The majority of people are decent and will not like spam, porn, etc. The client can then pre-screen on upvote/view ratios.
I can see a vote system being a good way to discourage low quality posts by a single person, but when it comes to automated spam in high volumes, i don’t think manual voting by users can keep up.
Automated spam needs an automated deterrent.
paid relays are meant to do the curation for you. the rest works as intended.
Yeah the window of global unfiltered feeds being helpful for discovery was super short. Now it’s just a chaotic stream of garbage that wastes data.
An *unfiltered* global feed was never going to be useful longer term as the nostr user base grew. It can be available under “advanced” settings for those who still want it, but for the majority of users, i don’t see it being a beneficial thing to enable by default.
Yup agreed with everything here.
Sooner or later the spammers will come into every comment section. I see no other solution tight now other than paid relays. Makes removing spammers a viable business model.
Yeah I’m in favor of paid relays. I’m just saying I think global firehose is not useful.
With only paid relays enabled for global I get some value from mine. There is definitely more room for curation innovation regardless.
Invite only relays is another interesting idea I forgot about.