nostr21.com is 21 sats a month. is that micro enough? the thing is, clients like bitchat are just leechers. they dont even bother to help send a message to their users, or they could be spam free and not such a doomed idea. they publish a list of 'open relays' that will quickly grow tired of hosting their stuff.

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Oh lit, didnt know that. I guess if i had and easy way to just view from that relay specifically that i would pay. Is there a client with that view?

Added it on amethyst, lets see if it charges me

amethyst has no way for me to accept payments, the only way is via the landing page.. its the best we can really do, because like i was saying, they just dont think about this stuff, at all.

although, amethyst is the only client that gave it a little bit of a try, still, much to be done.

t Y*

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just app. the sharing/still balancing IT

Uh what

weighing pros & cons for future set up, +/- list so to say

You must be high or i am retarded bc i have no idea what youre saying.

i'm not high - tradeoffs with different apps in sharED info, you au9913 & cloud fodder

t Y was meant as thank You

Amethyst requested payments from me for another relay onece.

But apparently i am already a member and didn't know?

ah, yeah its a hybrid payments relay, i must have already added you then

NIP-11 includes "payment_required" limitation, so it should be quite easy to highlight that.

But, redirecting to the landing page is the only way to expose the payment flow.

Okay I won’t complain about subscription fatigue because it’s only 21sats ffs.

But still a little annoying we can’t arrange/pay/automate such payments from any nostr client I’m aware of.

Also it’s not letting me in 😭

I agree about the subscription fatigue. If there was a place to paste a renewable NWC connection string would you use it for a relay? I see coinos can support this.. I may attempt to implement this in the future, though it still depends on the friction of the users having to sign into, or paste their pubkey into my client to manage their subscription, they're viewing from another client and have no interest in that nor are even shown the landing page or etc.

What is the problem you're having? Is the payment not working?

Yeah it would be good to have some sort of standard so clients could show payment options from within their interface.

I am not very found of NWC into relays because of the not so subtle “commitment” to a specific set of relays.

If we think about nostr as a p2p protocol (because permissionless npubs and such), relays should be “mere concierges”, so maybe the client should arrange relay payments in the background for the user instead (you already have a wallet setup for sending zaps after all).

As for nostr21, I had some heisenbugs but the payment went through. Turns out it was showing me the wrong relay url in some places of the UI: wss://nostr21.nostr21.com instead of just wss://nostr21.com.

ah, yes, i need to fix the url, whoops.

i agree, the nwc seems a bit hard to implement and to use. and im hesitant to spend so much time on an implementation if it wont be used.

albyhub has zap planner, which lets you schedule lightning payments using an NWC string to lightning addresses at specific intervals. It also ha a field to put the recipient so I suppose one could put their npub, then the receiver would know the sub is paid.

this is not client integrated which would be ideal, but seems like a tool client and relay devs could utilize for the function.