True for the internet but thats too broad a comparison. People aren't actively thinking "oh Im going to use the internet now". That mindset ended when dial up ended.
"going live" is an integrated part of every other social media platform. To compete, it has to be integrated in the primary app on nostr side as well if you want normie adoption at this stage.
On the other hand millions of people use OBS to go online across many different streaming platforms π€·ββοΈ
Yet you can still go live directly from IG, FB, TikTok, YouTube, Twitch, Kick, the list goes on.. itβs about having the ability to do it from within the app.. doesnβt mean OBS would be obsolete, would just mean you have a full product..
It's just the ancient software debate about having one app that does everything, but half-assed, or a focused app that does one thing very well. At least with Nostr you don't have to choose, interoperability is built in, not an afterthought.
I feel like youβre exactly right itβs an ancient software debate, today you can easily have your cake and eat it too. Apps can do more than before, you donβt have to half-ass it unless you want to.
π― It dates back to before I was born. Modular vs monolithic software design.
And the great thing about Nostr is it makes the modular approach far easier, thanks to the way identities are handled. I wonder if copying the way legacy Internet stuff works (monolithic) is the way to go, vs modular, which is far easier with Nostr.
It leaves it open for choice between the two even though one approach is easier?
idk I just thought it would be better user experience to not only have viewable content but also ability to create that content from that same place of viewing
Shosho let's you view and create streams & video. Like YouTube crushed video on the Internet by being focused on one thing and doing it well, vs having everything in the Facebook app. There examples going both ways, it is hard to say what will win.
Not like anything I say should matter, but it's important that modularity outcompetes or is, at least, comparable in the short term, so monolithic apps are less likely to create capture via complexity & obscurity. The whole ux sucks if you can't figure out how to leave when you want to.
This. One app that does everything obscures Nostr's greatest attribute, the fact that your identity is portable across any part of the ecosystem. That is Nostr's killer app.
I agree with you guys on everything else but how dumb is it that you can view the livestream but not start one from within the app ? Thatβs all Iβm saying lmaooo
Itβs pretty hard to refute that, itβs just completing a half baked feature lol
I'm not sure how big of a difference it would make honestly. The sizable majority of users aren't creators, but consumers & lurkers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule
(This is backed up by my own experience here on Nostr. Any post that gets really popular, in the triple digits for likes, dozens of reposts, and big zaps, has thousands of views. Most people are lurkers, they don't comment or interact at all.)
It's a feature that a small percentage would ever use, and the effort might be better focused on making consumption better for the 99% who will be watching the videos. I wonder what percentage of users on twitch & YouTube use the built in streaming option vs something like OBS?
What Nostr truly lacks is documentation. For instance here is what twitch has for new creators.
https://www.twitch.tv/creatorcamp/en/
A list of the software that can be used to steam to twitch.
https://dashboard.twitch.tv/broadcast
It's a pretty amazing resource that covers how to steam, how monetization works, tips for engaging & retaining an audience, etc. Nostr lacks stuff like this and it is vitally important.
Apparently I was wrong you can livestream from primal using a premium membership on primal studio
Aye but the way I see it, OBS users are "power users" who are looking for a specific streaming product which often has granular settings and require time to set up.
On the other hand, casual users will never bother to download and configure OBS but a large portion of those people would hit a button within an app they're already using if thats all it took. These are users of convenience.
For the buyers of convenience the feature itself is not the initial draw but may be the reason they stay. Tbh I think user retention is a bigger issue for nostr than getting new users. We can get all the new users in the world but if none of them stick around it really doesnt matter.
