Well, I'm assuming that they have to confirm their assent, somehow. Otherwise, you could just have two random people stand there and marry them, without their consent.
At least nod, or give a π , or say "I do", or something.
Well, I'm assuming that they have to confirm their assent, somehow. Otherwise, you could just have two random people stand there and marry them, without their consent.
At least nod, or give a π , or say "I do", or something.
Again, there are no vows. There is no βI doβ thatβs only in western Christianity due to the legal contract aspect of marriage in western theology that *does not exist in eastern theology* itβs considered worldly in eastern theology. In eastern Christianity the priest goes over whether or not the couple consents to being married *before* the wedding. Long before! It is a requirement in order to have a wedding in the first place. After receiving that consent the wedding can take place. Traditionally consent is received prior to the betrothal service which is separate from the wedding service even! But these days those services are often combined.
The bride is not given away in orthodox weddings like she is in western weddings (walked down the aisle by a father figure and then handed off to another man) because in eastern theology her being their of her own free will is a requirement for the marriage to take place.
Well, okay, that's just a dragged-out version. We also have to voice consent, beforehand, at confession.
Itβs hard for western Christians to comprehend that there are no vows in orthodox weddings because vows are the main focus of the western weddings but in eastern weddings the main focus is the when the couple is crowned together. Thatβs why in the east the marriage liturgy is called βthe rite of crowningβ or the βmystery of crowningβ π π
Oh, that's pretty.
Maria, can you help me understand what βOrthodox Catholicβ means.
I assume this is different than Orthodox.
Eastern rite Catholics basically
βCatholicsβ
Eastern rite Catholics are in full communion with the Church of Rome which seems to be your church so why are you putting them in ββ ??? Weird. Iβm not eastern rite Iβm Orthodox.
He's a real hardliner. It happens.
Heβs also incorrect lol
Insane lmao
I meant what u said
So you didnβt mean Eastern Rite Catholics? Why did you say that then?
Cuz you should be Catholic
Youβre telling people who are already Catholic that they should be Catholic? Lol k
Papal supremacy
Yes you donβt agree with the pope about eastern rite Catholics but youβre a Roman Catholic? Why?
lol what π
You called eastern rite Catholics βCatholicsβ but the RCC doesnβt teach that and doesnβt even have closed communion or anything. Open to high church Protestants and Orthodox Christians according to canon law that I guess you also donβt agree with?
Yea i donβt agree with anything other than what i believe.
Honestly had this conversation way too many times Iβm sick of it
Iβve literally never had a conversation with you beforeβ¦
Decided to make a bunch of wiki pages, in response. π
I hope he reads your wiki pages!! I muted him after he was saying he was sick of having this discussion as if I had tagged him into it (nobody did he just replied bc he wanted to lol) bc not only have I never discussed this w him before I quite literally have never discussed *anything* w him before and was completely unaware of his existence until yesterday when he had a little meltdown saying βfind Godβ repeatedly and was massively trashing the structure of the church he claims to supposedly be a member of π€¨
Don't worry about it. He's been in a grumpy mood since the war broke out, understandably.
Iβm not worried about it I just muted him and hope his mental health improves since heβs clearly not stable right now
The whole existence of your βChurchβ is cuz of dumb behavior like that
Find God
You are incorrect
Nope. Orthodox Catholic is interchangeable with Orthodox Christian. This is an OCA church for example: 
Confusing! What is the purpose of adding βCatholicβ when the Orthodox and Catholic schism exists?
It literally wasnβt added after the schism. Catholic means universal. Thatβs why Romans, Orthodox, and most Protestants all say βI believe in one holy catholic apostolic churchβ in the creed. Anglo-Catholics and old Catholics and orthodox Catholics are all *not* in communion with Roman Catholics. Romans have never owned the word Catholic theyβre just the largest group.
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It's like how people from the USA are called "Americans", but Canadians and etc. are also Americans.
I try to clarify with capitalization. I'm an "orthodox Catholic", but not an "Orthodox Catholic".
That confuses people, too, as I'm using "orthodox" to clarify that I'm neither trad, nor liberal.