Iroh as a pure protocol. Not that the most decentralised one is necessarily the best, but if you start with P2P and take away all the stuff that doesn't quite get there, including holepunch, then what's left is Iroh. It really does get there.

For the Nostr-esque side of things then Pubky. This argument that everything on Nostr is a subset of Pubky I buy.

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Thanks, haven't heard of iroh.

What are you thoughts on yggdrasil? I've used it a bit and had some success with hosting services on it. Seems similar to iroh but I haven't done a deep comparison yet.

Hadn't heard of Yggdrasil, thanks. Looks like real bedrock stuff. I wonder if you could use Iroh on top of Yggdrasil, so transport layer and application layer. That'd be pretty interesting.

When I think of the application level decentralization I always come to the point where it could get difficult to even get a hosting providers for some people. Kinda happened to me so I opted to just use yggdrasil and self host on a pi