Nostr Web Client

nostr:npub1f4faufazfl4cf43c893wx5ppnlqfu4evy2shc4p9gknfe56mqelsc5f7ql has a really good article about nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m’s leaving the Bluesky board, support of Nostr, and the recent interview.

I mostly agree with the article but I think there’s more than just that Bluesky is taking on a corporate platform prespective with the roll out of the atproto. It’s that Bluesky is engaged in a kind of closed protocol design that feels heavy like xml and java. It’s open source like Android is…

My hope is that nostr:npub1pu3vqm4vzqpxsnhuc684dp2qaq6z69sf65yte4p39spcucv5lzmqswtfch can be the super easy to use for normies app for Nostr. We’ve got a much bigger and more interesting ecosystem of apps. Nostr is a lot easier to work with than atproto for developers. But it’s also super confusing to new users. Wallet setup is hard, registering a username is hard, understanding how to login to nostr web apps with browser extensions is hard. We can solve these problems, but it takes work.

We’re about to launch the creator and journalism residencies to help bring a diversity of content beyond our core bitcoiner community which is sustaining Nostr.

Take a read:

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/05/13/bluesky-is-building-the-decentralized-social-media-jack-dorsey-wants-even-if-he-doesnt-realize-it/

tf 1y ago

It makes fair points but the elephant in the room is that the AT Protocol is not decentralized in practise and that goes back to your point about the protocol development model and I think Jack's point about Bluesky developing both the protocol and the major client

Maybe atproto will become decentralized in future but the protocol developer and its main consumer being the same entity is not great for the protocol

Bluesky could breakup Bluesky, split off the client development, and split the client itself into different versions - the enforced moderation issue provides a clean breakpoint. And sponsor development of competing clients

They don't seem to be doing much to encourage decentralization and that is strange

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tf 1y ago

Ok maybe

"Bluesky controls the AT Protocol right now, and Graber is keenly aware that isn’t tenable if it’s going to be something lots of other companies build on over time. She says the plan is to eventually hand over control to a web standards body like the Internet Engineering Task Force. "

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/6/24062837/bluesky-drops-invite-system-begins-federation-at-protocol

tf 1y ago

Thinking about it this is possibly worse

Enshrining atproto as a standard would help drive out competing protocols

The issues surrounding decentralization are highly political and it's not clear that the IETF are equipped to handle it

This would create an opportunity/vulnerability