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Trust is very appealing! it is so wonderful to have a partner that you can trust and rely on! And I think that's what people often mean.

The technical definition of submit is "accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person." Certainly that is not healthy in a loving relationship.

plor 10mo ago

I just think there is a burden on submission (i.e. loss of full autonomy) as well as a burden of leadership (i.e. responsible for others). Again, only arguing in principle, you do you.

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HannahMR 10mo ago

Ya burden would be a good word.

I see these kinds of arrangements and a failure of development and individuation. To become a fully actualized adult you have to take on responsibility for yourself and you have to realize that you don't control others. These arrangements hold us back from that.

HannahMR 10mo ago

*as a failure of development

plor 10mo ago

Ok, that makes sense. The whole women submit thing is basically an extension of childhood then. I can probably agree with you that this is bad. I will think on this more, because maybe my framework for understanding is flawed.