lists seem to be failing us for many reasons, im all for trying the individual events, maybe that's better
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Me too. And communities offer a kinda clean slate for fixing the obvious mistakes made in the pUbLiC sQuArE sphere.
But it's still intimidating (sunk cost, momentum and all), so I'd prefer to have a long list of solid arguments / advantages.
ive got some lists.. of the adv/disadv of lists.. 😁 maybe i could write them down.. 🤔
For me, this is the simplest rule:
How would you remove an event from a label collection? Delete the label event?
Only if that removes all labels from the event, yes.
If not, you just remove "follow" and leave "bitcoiner" (+ other labels) in there.
That's how I read the NIP at least.
trying to delete/modify and events getting spread far and wide past the relays theyre supposed to be on.. are part of why both solutions struggle..
imagine a scenario, if you're using delete to unfollow, that wont work. i could have you refollow me just by republishing the label you created.
(see how it gets weird?)
Wait, why can't we just look at the Profile's relay as the authority?
This is a more general "Delete" + "What Is The Latest Version?" problem and is imo fixed by just looking at the authoritative relay.
For Communities → main relay
For Individual Profiles → main relay
as long as you know what relay to look at yes, but the state of relay lists is pretty bad rn.. (stale, invalid, spread too far, etc)
for a community, yeah thats more of an authority than a relay list can be since its tied closer with the communities relays as the source.
Lol, yeah agreed on the state of affairs.
That's just because there's no daily driver apps that let you manage your relay in the app. Yet.