Maybe Damus Mail is a better name than the Notebook? I still prefer mail to be nostr based with an email bridge though. Looks like X is getting a mail client too.

Someone made this interesting observation which sounds a lot like the design i was thinking about for our mail client.

We could use nip05 as nostr mail addresses, although it would be optional if you have their nprofile. This would be way easier than setting up mail on some domain, and they can be end to end encrypted with nip17.

#nostrmail

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There is literally a project called nostr mail that does exactly this 😂

Albeit with nip04

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email is essential service .. and it is biological mother of #nostr - idea of decentralization and anonymity !

dMail. D for Damus and DM for…DMs.

Dmail it is

"Check your inbox. i sent you a dmail" ehhh ok

Here's your dmail!

Noo, Dmail is reserved for time-traveling emails. Check Steins;gate.

LFG

EMus would have been better 😂

Almost an ostrich 😛

Liberty, liberty, liberty.

Didn’t nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49 build something in regards to this?

Yes, all snort nip05 works as email address

Does it work with zapstream too?

Nope just snort

I’m not interested in email, i want to build native mail on nostr (with email bridges, fine)

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Yeah. Bridge sounds right? Digest the incoming email into nostr. I know not what I speak of! 😉

DaMail

You know, now that you mentioned it, I wonder if we should migrate the nostr:nprofile1qqsxkhjrcrtkumdfgemnjkp6zvmeku528r66v69fsszk5hwtgt75rsqpzemhxue69uhkummnw3ex2mrfw3jhxtn0wfnj7826aee service to NIP-17. It uses NIP-04 currently.

What is this? It's email?

Damus Post Office or Damus Connect? Gmail is really just a brand that more or less monopolized email as we knew it, but this seems like a new thing with email functionalities

This might be the thing that makes me learn how to zap... An uncancellable email address? Is this what is being discussed?

Yes

Well it’s more like nostr mail, it’s not really email, you would have to bridge with email if you wanted that

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I just need email forwarding... Is that a good MVP...

Yeah i want that too

Already ditched gmail... Living without email for a while now... Tried neo space email for a while... Not bad... Looking at UD email...

What will it cost? It's got to work!

Why not just the npub@nostrmail.whatever? Is it a character limitation? 254 chars...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/386294/what-is-the-maximum-length-of-a-valid-email-address#574698

I want to have some inbound only email contact method, that just works free forever... Like not dropped/cancelled/expired because of account "policies"... The root zero of all comms...

Definitely

I am willing to pay one chunk up front... Free forever as in freely transmitted forever... Like a blockchain? Smoke signals? Writing a letter?

Take a look at HEY from the creators of Basecamp, definitely an incredible and more private take on email.

https://www.hey.com/

have you heard about Lightning Domains?

NIP05 + LUD16 + BIP353 + E-mail

we are building a standard fo these kind of services and provide a proper protocol so we can interoperate.

https://github.com/lightning-domains/lightning-domains

thats a lot of rules

I'm starting to implement them so everybody could deploy their own, just redirect their their .well-known directory.

The goal is to turn every domain into a Lightning Domain.

https://github.com/lightning-domains/walias

I’m tinkering on something similar, but am trying to architect it just using Nostr only so no DB. Still will have to use a token from the registrar to set DNS records and the email part is not on my scope.

I don't get it. What is the difference between Dmail and DMs?

Its DMs with a few more things. Also want to support pinning public threads in your inbox as well. I originally called this your “notebook” which was just a way to monitor threads of various kinds with archival states.

Thank you, this makes a lot of sense.

Although it's weird that some people want email to look more like DMs and you're making DMs look more like email.

I think it was nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 who said once that people like email because it's stable and they know their messages are there waiting for them when they need them.

That's probably why email clients end up being the de facto RSS reader of many people with newsletter subscriptions, hence this idea for trying to get that to work in a Nostr context: nostr:nevent1qqsqqqx3n9ls2cu8qf5gxfhuzvt3kssv8v7etw20enna2t5yqkqj5xqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn00p68ytnyv4mz7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hschkr36

But now I'm thinking newsletters just fit the NIP-23 RSS style subscriptions better and mixing them up with email is a bad idea.

DMs are syncronous. Its like slack or chatrooms. a giant scrollback buffer with stuff that is easily missed, especially in groupchats. DMs are a denial of service attack when it comes to productivity.

Mails are focused, threaded topics that can be resolved in logical units. They are way more useful to me than DMs.

I get lots of messages on here with people having issues, if I could pin them in my inbox so that I can update that person over time as I fix issues, that would be ideal. I could tag a public nostr thread with a nostr-git-issue, and automatically update them when the issue closes.

Public threads are the closest thing to mail threads, it just needs a bit of design for managing them, like archiving when you're done with them.

The pinning stuff is very useful indeed. I hadn't thought about it until now but I wish I could pin some threads and answer them later, reference them later or update them later when some events happened. I don't know if an email inbox would be the best place for this though, maybe just a "notebook" indeed.