Posting notes without internet? 🤔

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I meant HTTP, not necessarily Internet.

UDP?

UDP is internet too

Yes, I'm just trying to think of other protocols.

How could you forget old trusty TCP?

That's boring... Nostr already runs over TCP

The entire internet pretty much does. Good Ol' trusty

Isn't TCP the basis of I2P?

Isn't it the basis for almost the entire internet?

Yes, smarty-pants.

gopher or gemini?

Both are Internet protocols

So is UDP or FTP, I'd say (apart from both being on different levels...)?

Different levels, yes!

All over IP, i.e., the Internet, yes too!

No contradiction. ;)

What about Email?

Email, SMTP/IMAP/pop protocols, tuns over TCP IP...

Still internet, but interesting idea. You could point out your mailbox in your imaginary nostr client and it could be used as the channel to exchange notes.

The mailbox would be a sort of relay, they are quite dump actually.

I was thinking your Nostr client could strip out your IP from the email header and then you could send it to a mailserver-relay and they'd know it isn't spam because you signed it with your not-blacklisted key.

Or something.

Like, instead of masking/borrowing IP addresses, create a special Nostr communical path that you can use anonymously.

Was just thinking that we have this super-anon protocol running over IP addresses and it's like...

Why tho?

Emails are actually not that good at privacy, e.g., hiding IP address. Traditionally clients insert your prv IP address in the email header. Luckily email providers strip them down, mostly, but that depends on the email provider.

Yeah, I was thinking that the client could be an e-mail client, just like it's now an HTTP client. Or both.

And email is store-and-forward with (at least IMAP) a focus on longlasting archives where at least all metadata is plaintext in any case. 🙈

I was thinking e-mail because I was using it before Internet became popularized. It predates the Internet and can working without it.

"Without internet" usually means without interconnected subnets or offline, e.g. using USB to exchange data, or p2p via Bluetooth. What do you mean?

Ftp, http, and other such protocols run on top of IP (internet protocol), so are by definition "the internet"

It would be nice to have p2p (usb, Bluetooth) note exchange. I believe that Scuttlebutt Protocol tried to do something like that...

Yes, had ssb in mind here too.

I would consider RFC 2549 for this if throughput rate was of the essence.

Theres always JBOD in a station wagon.

IP over Avian Carriers is still Internet

#reticulum

A membrane?