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🇨🇭Switzerland just voted ‘yes’ to Digital ID 👇🏼

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/swiss-voters-have-decided-on-electronic-id-and-abolishing-rental-tax/90057432

Kaputalism Minimalist 3mo ago

I voted yes. Here is why:

We already rejected a proposal for an E-ID a couple years ago where the whole thing was run by a private company. Opponents and privacy advocacy groups had a long long list of complaints.

So what they did is they got all this groups on board and redesigned the whole thing. It is now run by fedpol, the gov police branch that already issues the normal ID and passport. It is implemented in a way that you only reveal information that is required. You can for example prove that you are over 18 without revealing any other information than just true/false. There is no tracking where or how you use it.

"but it will lead to unfree internet". Yeah that is already comming. Your gouvernments will force an E-ID on you without asking if the implementation is accepable. If they set the standard we will inevitability be forced to adopt the shit they are producing or outsource to google and apple. I don't want the garbage that comes out of your pseudo democracies.

So this is our only chance to get an E-ID that is as privacy respecting as possible.

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Efrat Fenigson 3mo ago

Thanks for sharing.

I would not vote yes. And of course your choice is respected - free will.

mister_monster 3mo ago

To say that it's inevitable is to say that your government doesnt work for you. So how can you then say that you'll get the one you want in the first place by voting for it?

These things are not inevitable. The state wants you to think it is all powerful, but in reality, every action it takes is a reaction to the behaviors of it's population, or to external state actors. Their power is always tenuous and one angry buffalo can cause a stampede.

To ask a question asked below but not directed at you, how does a swiss person actually benefit from the e-id? Not how does it benefit from this version over the inevitable version, you already shared your thoughts on that, but how do you benefit from the existence of this system in Switzerland?

Kaputalism Minimalist 3mo ago

I don't think the government is working for me, but in Switzerland we have a lot of tools to course correct and stop the worse, or change things completely against their wishes.

The problem isn't the government in our case, but I'm pretty certain that age restrictions for adult content, games and even social media is actuallt popular in the wider population. This may not be apparentinf you suround yourself with libertarians or whatever who are completely detached from regular people.

As for what it can do for me? I think it will be an incredible tool for our direct democracy, as it will make digital signing of referendums and popular initiatives possible, which will significantly lower the cost to block unwanted changes by parliament. It also invreases accessability for government services for people with disabilities.

As for the promise that it is complete optional. we have the tools to hold them accountable. Ironically the E-ID even made those tools stronger.