So natural LA shouldn’t be all that terrible 🤷♂️
I’d like to see what research people point to when making their claims …
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A lot of NIH research and FASEB research I've seen in the past has been questionable, science especially compromised when you look at who is sponsoring the poster. And then there's the whole editors at journals like Science and Nature that have been compromised, with giant paywalls and lot of good research that just went suppressed. There's some really good stuff in alternative and ancient eastern medicine, but its not mainstream popular so *shrug*
They were cooking with oil in ancient eastern times?
i was just generalizing when you said "research" i kinda got triggered, lol sorry
Oh ok
I agree the bias can be questionable. But everything we do is based on verifiable science. We have all to thank scientific method. We can’t just throw it away simply because there may be bias and influence involved.
Is it verifiable? There are a lot of papers that have published results that aren't. I'm not saying "throw it away", but the trend since peer review came into existing has caused a lot of areas to stagnate into an echo chamber or compromised by big pharma. I'm not the only one who thinks so, lemme find a link
If I’m not mistaken science by definition must be verifiable. If you can’t replicate the results in other studies then you should question that study.
It’s all compromised by big pharma sounds like paranoid conspiracy theory, the likes of which are sadly prevalent among government distrusting people.
Source of funds alone is not enough to say it’s junk science. People still have individual integrity. Can it be influenced? Absolutely. Always? Meh, I’d say no.
Just one example, at the highest level:
What does this tell me? Did the studies get replicated? That’s all I really care about. There are thousands of studies coming out all the time. Many will be shit. Should not be surprising.
The problem with peer review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1420798/
This sounds like a fluff piece tbh.
We don’t point to studies and say “look, told you so”. We treat them as data points to inform decision making.
yes, do your own research. get your own lab if you can afford it, but few can.
It costs ~500k -1 million starters to set up a decent lab and that doesn't even begin to stack up the raw material costs.
great if you can afford to verify the papers, i'd like to see more independently funded labs do it. but most have foundations or universities that back them, and then all the politicking that comes into play.
Dropping links to one thing claiming wide disfunction doesn’t prove anything. It’s probably just one shitty opinion among the shit opinions drawn from stupid observations.
Not saying it is for sure but anyone can say anything. That piece you linked is full of probably
of course, that's making the assumption you think I don't really know anything about the research industry.
I’m not making any assumptions about you personally.
I would encourage you to lean about logical fallacies and then apply that lense to everything you read. Or just use existing tools that can highlight them for you. LLMs are great at this
There's a lot of shit, yep :D
Also consider the cost to verify lab science. Its easy to verify stuff in software. but is insanely expensive to verify a lot in some sectors of material sci/eng, biochem/biophys. Throwing up a lab independent of who is funding it is next to impossible for the avg citizen. Plus one can't control the raw materials in the same way
This is a major crux of the problem, affording the equipment that standardizes the process. One could even make an argument that there is emphasis on requiring these machines to already make reproducibility difficult. Then you throw into the mix the incentives against reproducing in favor for novel research (you're not going to get funding to reproduce other's work), and the bias against publishing negative results.
100%
Peer Review has created a back scratching culture. those who speak about it often get punished for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5sRYsMjiAQ
https://podcastnotes.org/portal-with-eric-weinstein/bret-eric-weinstein-portal-lab-mice-telomeres/
CDC/FDA/Big Pharma/NIH/Grant funded research all in bed with each other. You wanna keep your job in research? bend the knee. Unless you are independently wealthy and go fund your own thing, and they'll probably try to murder you along the way.