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"I guess you're too retarded to know how to create a lifestyle that removes you from the system that is implementing the cloward pivon plan."

Uhhhhh. Why should we have to?

You can act like you're somehow superior for your choices that navigate around this system but like. You're not arguing in favor of destroying it. You're not saying that the people behind it or the ones that benefit from it are evil people who should for all intents and purposes be hanged publicly.

And then you're saying the idea of "defending your country" doesn't apply here?

Contradictory much?

AU9913 10h ago

The welfare state shouldn't exist. Attack that and legally remove illegals. That's what I'm advocating for.

And no I don't think people with a different political ideology from me should be hanged. That's statist bullshit and if you advocate for it, it will be used against you.

If you're being robber by the state to fund welfare, it's on you to either end that policy by the state or figure out how to not contribute to that program. Not advocate for murdering illegals and those associated with them.

You keep saying "defending your country" like I am opposed to fighting these dog shit ideas. I'm not, but you can't use state sponsored violence and illegal methods to defend your country, bc then you're contributing just as much to the downfall of the US. You sound like you would be on the side of the ATF in Waco to defend the US against Christian extremism or some shit.

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makeheroism 10h ago

"The welfare state shouldn't exist. Attack that and legally remove illegals. That's what I'm advocating for."

Too slow.

"And no I don't think people with a different political ideology from me should be hanged. That's statist bullshit and if you advocate for it, it will be used against you."

Treason isn't a political ideology. Advocating for the invasion of the country is treason. It's an act of war.

"If you're being robber by the state to fund welfare, it's on you to either end that policy by the state or figure out how to not contribute to that program. Not advocate for murdering illegals and those associated with them."

Too slow.

"You keep saying "defending your country" like I am opposed to fighting these dog shit ideas. I'm not, but you can't use state sponsored violence and illegal methods to defend your country, bc then you're contributing just as much to the downfall of the US. You sound like you would be on the side of the ATF in Waco to defend the US against Christian extremism or some shit."

Too slow. Can and should. No you're not. That's a false equivalence.

AU9913 10h ago

Fuck off dude, too slow is not a valid response when the govt was literally designed to move slowly to protect peoples rights.

"Treason isn't a political ideology. Advocating..."

Wrong, you can advocate for litterally anything in America except for violence against a specific person. Nazis advocate to kill all Jews, BLM folks were saying kill all whites, etc. It's not treason until there are actions taken and even then you have to prove it in court.

makeheroism 10h ago

"Levying war against the United States, or

Adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

Importing millions of people that are diametrically opposed to the American way of life and aim to destroy fundamental protections of rights in the constitution are treasons acts. Treason is not a political ideology. Aiding and comforting our enemies is also taking place. Again. Treason is not a political ideology.

Too slow is a completely valid response. It's the basis for emergency declarations, war powers, executive orders, emergency legislation.

AU9913 10h ago

What fucking enemies dude? I bet half of the people you're talking about are from countries we are allied with.

"It was not enough, Chief Justice John Marshall’s opinion emphasized, merely to conspire “to subvert by force the government of our country” by recruiting troops, procuring maps, and drawing up plans. Conspiring to levy war was distinct from actually levying war."

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-iii/clauses/39

"A citizen intellectually or emotionally may favor the enemy and harbor sympathies or convictions disloyal to this country’s policy or interest, but, so long as he commits no act of aid and comfort to the enemy, there is no treason."

What you're talking about is not treason, it's conspiracy. Unless you can define this enemy you're speaking of, it doesn't fit the definition of treason, you're just making a boogeyman.

makeheroism 9h ago

Again. There is no evidence I could potentially present that will get you to believe the things I'm saying and realistically I don't care to waste my time trying.

I don't care about that justice's opinion.

And I don't care about your opinion of his opinion either.

AU9913 9h ago

Bc, like illegal immigrants, you don't respect the rule of law. You don't have principles, you just point and say "this is wrong, that is right" arbitrarily and use that to justify violence. I don't respect the law myself, but the government HAS to follow it, otherwise we live in a monarchy and the rules only apply to citizens.

makeheroism 9h ago

A judge's opinion is not the rule of law.

Illegal immigrants don't deserve respect.

Invasion and treason justify violence.

Pretty simple really.

AU9913 9h ago

"A judge" its literally the "opinion" of the supreme court.

Invasion and tresson justify violence. Your definition of those words doesn't meet the standard of the highest law of the land. If the supreme courts opinion isn't valid, then I assert that you are being treasonous and all violence against you is permitted, because we're just using arbitrary definitions.

makeheroism 9h ago

Nope. You're conflating judgement and governance.

lol look how quickly you've decided that violence against me is warranted and I'm a random citizen. Funny how that works.

I think I'll take this as you conceding your argument because you've now advocated for the force of the American government to be levied on me as a tactic of debate.

We're done here. Bye.

AU9913 6h ago

See, you don't like when an arbitrary definition of treason is applied to you. Lol I just used your own logic against you and it triggered you so bad you rage quit