many of you should review your relay and network settings and remove old or inactive relays that are no longer online. it’s a good time to do a little maintenance and clean things up.
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i dont know how and im not allocating time to that rn. im sorry. is that dumb of me? sure. cos im pretty sure you share good advice, nostr ceo
what app are you using?
primal
You can go to Settings, Network.
Generally, red is bad. I need to remove nostr.band because that relay has been dead for a while. 
thank you so much?!?! i did!
got rid of all the red ones
you are a really great ceo
what's the best tool to verify they are still active/good to go?
usually your app should have some indicator that the relay is disconnected or slow, normally red is bad.
I want to do this, but I just don't have the time or inclination to learn about what a good setup looks like. I would loooove a website or tool that guides me through to a reasonable setup, WITHOUT requiring me to read a lot or make decisions that I don't understand.
A guide that takes 5 to 10 mins for a noob would be ideal. Upon completion I should have a setup that works.
we've had various guides and tools over the years but nothing that's super simple like you suggested.
I know, I have looked at a few, and always felt that they were all too theoretical. "Choose a relay that people you follow use" or similar. And I just don't want to do that work... When I have done it in the past I end up on some now abandoned relay...
I am a sw dev, and a longtime bitcoiner, so quite a techy person. But there are so many things I would rather do with my time...
I feel this is making nostr hard to adopt.
Let me see what I can come up with.
Would be awesome! Aim for "good enough", and personally I would not mind paid relays, but I kinda need to know that it is actually going to to be better than other options.
Here you go. I need to do more work on it, but this should be a good first start.
Oh! Wooow! Will give it a whirl as soon as I can after all the xmas stress dies down! Merry Christmas!
I gave it a whirl, and it definitely shows promise, but I actually failed to get it to work, I think :-)
I removed a couple of relays and added two new ones. So that I had 4 inbox and 2 outbox relays. Then I pressed publish, and got to sign a few events through my alby-hub extension. But then I got the following error:
One thing I think needs clarification is what is supposed to happen after that publish succeeds. Does that update my relay settings in Primal and Amethyst, or am I expected to do more there?
And an idea for a first step before getting to update the settings would be a basic "score" on my settings. Like "These settings look okay" or "You will have trouble reaching your followers" or "You will experience slow search" etc. If this worked well I could check this website every few months and check if my settings make sense still. I think that is a reasonable use case for a site like this, to be able to periodically check my settings.
this updates all of your applications that use your nostr profile's nip-65 relay settings, so yes, Amethyst and Primal would see updates.
as for that error, im wondering if it's because you added zero write relays and you were not able to write any changes do the read-only relays in your list.
let me fix this so people must have at least one write and one read relay for people that don't understand what they're doing here. thank you!
fixed! 
Nope, I still get the same error. What I did was remove the two slowest of my four relays in the first screen, so that I only had two "read"-relays. Then I added two new relays as both read and write. And pressed publish. Same error message as before.
im wondering if you're still using the old version of the application? can you please do a hard refresh? depending on what device yoiu're using, you'd need to delete cache or shift f5 or control r.
or i guess it's possible you're only adding relays that you don't have permission to write to? i don't believe im checking for that issue, but i think it's as cache issue.
I did a ctrl-f5, and when I tried without any write relays (just to test your new feature) I got the error that I would not be able to publish.
I am adding damus.io and primal.net strfry instance. Any specific ones that I should try instead, to check?
awesome! thank you for doing that and checking my sanity :)
those relays are fine. though you can pick smaller relays here and be just as successful since the inbox and outbox model allows users to choose any size and popularity of relay and still be able to communite with everyone. it helps with decentralization.
public relays are good for inbox, so everyone can comment, unless you want to limit who can comment. smaller relays are good for note storage, to help with decentralization so we don't all crowd around the top relays.
pick what you want and if it doesn't seem like a good choice, you can always choose another relay.
Hmm, I got it to work now. Don't know if you made any changes, or if it was something I did.
What I did was actually go into amethyst and change my one outbox relay from one that I was getting error messages from to nos.lol. I did that last night. And this morning when I tried relayopti it worked.
So maybe relayopti is trying to publish my changes through the broken relay that I already had?
I don't quite understand how I could be posting anything at all when my outbox was broken?
I am pretty sure I had two writes and four reads at least one of the times that I got that error. I tried three times.
I am going to try to stay clueless in my usage attempts, that is the target audience, right? 😃
Thanks Derek!
Good reminder
