Algos that can be exploited will. Solution is not to ban but to actually improve your algo. For instance Primal 24hr trending is easily gamed. I have done it and learned by seeing others do it previously. nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj is next level to troll it which is great too. Banning him from trending is not a solution he could easily troll primal tomorrow with new Npub and continue this everyday for eternity..... There seem to be honest Sat Spammers I got hit hard by one today seems like the whole trending did too however I don't think its valuable for those posts to trend for most people unless they are in their following circle.

Most are against Algos but in reality many avg users want something to save them time to see what was going on that day easily and quick.

For Primal I'd suggest for anyone who is signed in get rid of the current 24hr trending and replace it with something like 24hr trending of your followers or followers of your friends by default.

Where only those npub likes and zaps are counted no people outside that circle can count towards that total so its a more genuine. Also only count 1 zap and 1 like max for each npub to eliminate gaming by sat spamming and liking.

I get going to primal.net not signed in is nice to see a trending list but its just to easily gamed and will result in being completely useless. How about default to a homepage showing trending hashtags or something encouraging to make an account.

This isn't an easy thing to solve and just some of my thoughts. Respect those who are building these things and trying to solve these hard problems. We need spam and other attacks like algo gaming to improve. Like Bitcoin didn't actually move on solving the scaling problem until we got mempool spam and a Civil War followed. Growing pains but its cool there are so many other clients with different solutions already.

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What are sat spammers, and why are they targeting you?

Because that would serve department of corrections.

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Contrary to propaganda

Inquiring minds would love to know.

People who just instead of doing 1k sat zap think its fun to do a bunch of 1-10 sat zaps or i guess some people have bots. Today this account went crazy Sat Spamming people 69 sats. nostr:npub1lwmqtm4gvykw68zl9x0tdnmllun8rajmhppgazahxjxm58lnyrnsq7hv2d I have seen some other accounts do it. That one did a bunch. Others who are gaming the algo zapping themselves only. There is a difference but in terms of the algo there is no difference because useless stuff makes it's to the top of trending.

Why I think a solution might be for the algo to only take effect likes or zaps of people who you follow to curate trending and only account 1zap 1like event per npub so spamming has no effect on algo. I'm not a programmer though no idea how to get that done just a thought if possible.

So you’re saying that you didn’t zap yourself once or coordinate with a “sat spammer”?

So about that spokesperson.

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"Trending" is for sheep.

Simple use a Nostr client that does not have one. Solved. Some people like to see a quick look at what's going on. To each their own. I want to move more to using lists. That tailor to certain things for quicker looks at topics like finance bitcoin memes etc from people I follow. Amethyst allows lists you create on platforms like highlighter.com. I just been lazy need to start just copying npubs when I scroll to put in more specific lists.