- Proof of work was invented to prevent spam.

- Satoshi used PoW to rate-limit block production.

- Blocks create scarce Satoshis.

- Cashu puts Satoshis into bearer ecash tokens.

- KeyChat (privacy messenger) uses Cashu tokens as stamps to prevent spam.

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Last post: July 2023 😅

He'll come back

haha get it, back, haha lol lmfao rofl

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Most of the spam prevention I keep seeing is going to send us straight to modern SMTP where your emails enter a black hole unless you use Google.

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Cashu does not put satoshis INTO bearer ecash tokens. It issues an independent token which on its own is incompatible with every other cashu mint doing the same.

A mint itself takes possession of the sats, and offers a service to

- give you tokens for sats

- swap tokens for fresh tokens

- accept requests to pay bolt11 lightning invoices denominated in satoshis and provides an offer exchange rate

- may fullfill payment of aforementioned invoices through bridging to lightning network.

When you send satoshis to a cashu mint, you are effectively selling your sats for tokens under the hope that you can later get some of that value back.

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Idk seems okay for privacy and a small amount. But ecash ain’t ₿. Pretty cool stuff.

We're talking snailmail postage stamp utility tokens here. USPS for example prints some unknown quantity of different kinds of stamps each year & sells them for a fixed USD price. Some kinds hold value more than others. We don't know their supply issuance.

It's only meant to require a sizeable amount to purchase if you're a spammer. It's not really meant to be money, but nothing stops a person from valuing it as such I guess

I feel like I’m missing something here. Are you saying it serves a purpose to get Sats from one place to another but isn’t a replacement?

No, that's as absurd as pasting dollars on a paper envelope to pay the post office to send it.

Are you saying it’s worthless? Left side of bell curve here

I like the idea of PoW to GET RID OF REPLY GUYS. Thern again

I just want to rather pay for a relay.

so, charge people money

amazing!

you know that WoT is more efficient because it pre-thins the field before you even consider message cost

Make spam/filter lists importable/exportable/shareable/marketable.

We already have pow though just nobody is using it which kinda sucks for the WoT

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