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Sourcenode

Interesting. I didn't realize all the fps ratings were rifle based.

For rifle rounds I have heard the 300 Blackouts can be very quiet, but haven't ever tried with suppression.

Toy shopping maybe next year as I imagine some of the regulations will ease up and the corn crop will be bountiful.

Bill Cypher 1y ago

It depends on the round. Handgun rounds will be based on handgun barrel lengths. Rifle rounds based on rifle lengths.

22lr stands for 22 long rifle, so rifle fps calculations and not all the powder burns in and handgun barrel so they are slower. This is part of why 22 silencers get so dirty so fast and are such a pain to clean.

I still need to build myself a blackout upper, this conversation is giving me an itchy credit card. I will say that 556 out of a short barrel is loud as hell even with a silencer.

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Sourcenode 1y ago

I appreciate the depth of your knowledge on this. Always grateful to learn something new 🙏

Bill Cypher 1y ago

First hand experience with NFA items is rare but very valuable for cutting through the giant wall of misinformation being repeated on the internet by people who don't have real world experience.

Happy to help clear up myths where I know the facts.

Sourcenode 1y ago

FYI https://www.zerohedge.com/political/suspected-ceo-assassin-arrived-nyc-bus-last-month-stayed-hostel

Bill Cypher 1y ago

Interesting, that makes sense. On a silenced semi auto that is subsonic the action causes a significant part of the sound.

Manually cycling the action is much quieter because it is after the suppressor has done its job. A semi auto opens quick enough to allow some of the bang to come back out of the chamber.

Jameson Lopp 1y ago

Nah.

https://x.com/LouisvilleGun/status/1864452541397819899

Sourcenode 1y ago

On second watching I can kind of see him panicking as the gun doesn't operate the way he expected.

Interesting that there would be a concerted effort to create the professional assassin narrative.

Bill Cypher 1y ago

Makes sense. They don't want more regular people getting the idea that this is doable for the other cantillionaires.

Sourcenode 1y ago

That was my thought as well

Sourcenode 1y ago

Can't confirm authenticity, I've never seen suppression like this... but I want to believe it's real. https://video.nostr.build/c6f0df0597f45c8702a712a6727a5fa138427dce357690e2e27b0b5feaff4e84.mp4

Bill Cypher 1y ago

Looks bogus to me. Just the action sliding home would be louder than that compared to his voice.

There is no magic in a suppressor. The action running is exactly as loud as if you pull it back and let it go to chamber a round.

Bill Cypher 1y ago

People with self respect can't see what is being said behind that link.